Ep. 63 - From the Vault: Brave and Moon Knight Ep 5

00:00:00:07 - 00:00:04:20 Derrick A moment I'm going to bring in. Pete. Pete, how. How's your evening? 00:00:05:12 - 00:00:11:16 Pete I'm doing great, Derek. I have to. I have to be like Kate because she's not here, so I. 00:00:13:06 - 00:00:15:01 Derrick Yeah, I think that's something none of us can live up to. 00:00:15:02 - 00:00:21:10 Pete No, I know. I can't. I can't even come close. But she's awesome. But I'm here and I'm okay, too. 00:00:23:18 - 00:00:28:06 Derrick And next, our producer, Gina, is going to join us. Gina, how was your evening going? 00:00:28:25 - 00:00:40:01 Gina Good. As you guys know, I'm doing my school countdown, so I'm excited to talk tonight about Brave and about Midnight so I can. Helps me get closer to the year end. That's where I'm. 00:00:40:01 - 00:00:40:06 Gina At. 00:00:40:15 - 00:00:45:27 Derrick Really understand that. And last but certainly not least, this week, we've got Sam. Sam. 00:00:46:09 - 00:01:03:06 Sam How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. You guys, it's so good to see all of you. I'm happy to be on the show. And happy to see all your smiling faces. Sam, we don't have Kate with us today, but having a Gina's joining us, and I'm always happy to be last in this square or we of five, i. 00:01:03:13 - 00:01:09:09 Sam I can't really like being last, you know? You know, we thought at least. 00:01:09:09 - 00:01:10:29 Derrick This one tarnishes. 00:01:10:29 - 00:01:12:01 Sam So. Exactly. 00:01:12:01 - 00:01:13:09 Pete Save the best for last. 00:01:13:10 - 00:01:15:06 Sam That's right. That's right. 00:01:15:21 - 00:01:18:00 Derrick And we've got Steve with us this week says. 00:01:18:00 - 00:01:18:19 Sam Hi, Tina. 00:01:19:04 - 00:01:22:22 Derrick Holly's with us. Hi, guys. With Gina. 18 days and counting. Woo hoo! 00:01:22:22 - 00:01:25:09 Gina Summer already. Oh, Sally. 00:01:25:10 - 00:01:27:24 Derrick I'm at 16. Gina, what are you at? 00:01:27:27 - 00:01:30:02 Sam 20. Yeah. 00:01:30:05 - 00:01:32:08 Gina 21 with 2120 with kids. 00:01:32:24 - 00:01:33:04 Sam Yeah. 00:01:34:06 - 00:01:35:14 Derrick 17. 16 with kids. 00:01:35:14 - 00:01:38:19 Sam So poor me and Pete. We have your job. 00:01:39:13 - 00:01:41:13 Gina And you're like, Here's how many years do you have. 00:01:42:01 - 00:01:43:29 Pete Ma'am, on vacation in 11 days. 00:01:43:29 - 00:01:45:18 Sam So that's nice. 00:01:46:27 - 00:01:48:17 Pete It's only a week. No, not the whole summer. 00:01:48:23 - 00:01:55:01 Sam Yeah, I'm on vacation over Memorial Day, but it's just a four day weekend. Not a lot. Yeah. Yeah. 00:01:55:10 - 00:02:03:05 Derrick Ryan says Ryan's high says petitioner's Ed's with us tonight. That's what he needs. And he says he's 32. 00:02:03:11 - 00:02:08:09 Sam Oh, my goodness. We have we have lots of teachers with. Yes, my goodness. 00:02:09:24 - 00:02:19:03 Derrick So well, as we do, we normally shift to Kate at this point with Disney Plus News. But since she's not here, I won't take her up. So it's time for the Disney Plus News. 00:02:22:12 - 00:02:23:15 Derrick Kate, please hurry back. 00:02:27:01 - 00:02:41:09 Derrick A trailer was released this week for Hollywood Star Girl, an original movie that will be premiering on June 3rd on Disney. Plus, this is a sequel to Star Girl, which was released on Disney Plus in 20, 20, 18, the Phenix Star Girl. 00:02:41:09 - 00:02:42:09 Gina I didn't see it. I didn't even. 00:02:42:09 - 00:02:43:24 Sam Know I was there. 00:02:43:25 - 00:02:50:23 Derrick The three the new one actually looked kind of interesting. So we'll have to see what June brings us. 00:02:51:05 - 00:02:54:25 Pete I did remember when it came out, it came out before we were doing the show. 00:02:54:25 - 00:02:55:21 Derrick Before we were on. 00:02:56:11 - 00:03:01:09 Pete It pretty early. But the new one looks kind of similar. 00:03:02:00 - 00:03:23:19 Derrick OK, in an interview, Ewan McGregor said that he is totally up for playing Obi Wan in future projects. This may indicate that there's not a season to planned currently, but maybe in the future. So it means it's if there's not one now, he's at least open to it. 00:03:24:08 - 00:03:30:18 Sam Or maybe he could be honored on a different one of the other shows on a different character. Right? I could. You could? 00:03:31:01 - 00:03:33:18 Pete Yeah, I could see it maybe on Ashoka. 00:03:34:24 - 00:03:35:16 Sam So I get. 00:03:35:16 - 00:04:00:11 Derrick Him on that. I could see him possibly on an oh, though. The dude from Rogue 10 yeah. And or and or potentially and Ian McDermid who played Emperor Palpatine, a tease that he will be not only returning not only in Obi Wan, but also the and or series that's coming out. 00:04:00:13 - 00:04:06:27 Gina Yeah. He's such a great actor. He's such a great actor and such a great actor. That's why he's such a good actor. 00:04:08:16 - 00:04:17:19 Derrick Sources are pointing to a book of Boba Fett season two, and that it will include Samuel Jackson in some form. 00:04:17:23 - 00:04:18:02 Sam So. 00:04:18:09 - 00:04:21:19 Gina Is he could play Nace. This has been on my brain the whole time. 00:04:22:05 - 00:04:29:26 Derrick They may remember that Mace Windu killed Boba Fett’s father. So an appearance in a flashback scene makes sense. 00:04:30:05 - 00:04:31:22 Gina Oh, because I'm like, Is that me? 00:04:31:27 - 00:04:33:28 Derrick Or is this Force Ghost or something? 00:04:34:06 - 00:04:34:18 Sam OK. 00:04:34:26 - 00:04:36:14 Gina That's OK. That's kind of where I went. I was. 00:04:36:14 - 00:04:37:23 Sam Like, I'm I'm not. 00:04:38:02 - 00:04:41:12 Pete I'm not really feeling the need for another Boba Fett series, but. 00:04:41:18 - 00:04:44:27 Derrick Well, no, I be Mandalorian 3.5, right? 00:04:44:28 - 00:04:48:08 Sam We need a Mandalorian in season three. So it's coming. Right. 00:04:48:15 - 00:04:49:17 Pete But that's already coming. 00:04:50:03 - 00:04:52:00 Sam All right. So this would be, huh? 00:04:52:03 - 00:04:54:24 Gina That's 3.5. Then it's going to be Mandalorian 3.5. 00:04:54:25 - 00:04:55:22 Sam Yeah. So, hey. 00:04:55:29 - 00:04:58:18 Gina We have Cade right? We have that, yeah. 00:04:58:22 - 00:04:59:13 Pete No, they killed them. 00:04:59:24 - 00:05:02:12 Gina I know. We have the other. We have the, um. The Sheriff. 00:05:02:20 - 00:05:03:24 Sam Oh, the sheriff. Yeah. 00:05:03:24 - 00:05:04:05 Derrick Yeah. 00:05:04:22 - 00:05:07:00 Sam Oh, I do love them. Yeah, and. 00:05:07:00 - 00:05:17:11 Derrick Then, as is typical, Marvel has announced there will be a making of show about moon night release next week. Again, keeps the trend of the previous Marvel TV shows. 00:05:18:01 - 00:05:21:24 Sam I think these are all unnecessary. Well, I'm a. 00:05:21:25 - 00:05:22:24 Pete I'm the making of the. 00:05:22:24 - 00:05:23:14 Derrick Making of. 00:05:23:29 - 00:05:25:00 Gina Yeah, I enjoy some of them. 00:05:25:06 - 00:05:31:21 Sam I'm not. I'm not really into them. Yeah. Just give me the good show and leave it at that. Well. 00:05:32:06 - 00:05:32:21 Derrick Anyway. 00:05:33:12 - 00:05:34:11 Pete We won't review it. 00:05:34:16 - 00:05:55:18 Derrick I don't know. Oh, no, we won't think about it. But yeah, so some of us like that, if we like the show enough, we'll watch the making of it because I really enjoyed the one division one because it showed how they did all the different sets and all the different seeming scheming and stuff, filming and stuff. But part of the others just kind of, oh yeah, this is how they filmed that. 00:05:55:18 - 00:05:56:12 Derrick Action sequence. 00:05:56:24 - 00:05:57:18 Sam Yeah, yeah. 00:05:58:06 - 00:05:58:27 Derrick And the, and. 00:05:59:10 - 00:06:02:26 Pete The Mandalorian one was very interesting, even though that was, that was a multipart. 00:06:02:26 - 00:06:03:08 Sam One. 00:06:03:08 - 00:06:03:29 Gina I watch that. 00:06:04:05 - 00:06:05:09 Pete That was very interesting. Yeah. 00:06:05:09 - 00:06:05:19 Sam Yeah. 00:06:07:10 - 00:06:09:09 Derrick And Vicki says she did not like Star Girl. 00:06:09:27 - 00:06:12:09 Sam So thanks for me, Vicki. Yeah. 00:06:13:17 - 00:06:28:26 Derrick All right. It is Mother's Day this weekend. First, happy Mother's Day, Sam. Happy Fur Baby Mother's Day, Gina. And Happy Mother's day to all the mothers and grandmothers listening out there. 00:06:29:15 - 00:06:33:29 Sam Yeah. And mother figures people who are maybe aren't mothers but take on that role. 00:06:35:26 - 00:06:50:18 Derrick And so we decided that the movie that came to mind, they talked about a mother daughter relationship or had some kind of a central mother character. The most was brave. So that's how we came up with brave. 00:06:51:02 - 00:07:00:14 Sam Because in most Disney movies, the parents die. Like even before the movie starts or at the beginning of the movie. So it's not really that many movies that really have a mother parent relationship. 00:07:00:14 - 00:07:06:11 Gina And then we were saying in Sleeping Beauty, the parents were asleep the entire movie. So we didn't get to see a parental. 00:07:06:13 - 00:07:07:11 Sam Hey, Bambi. 00:07:07:11 - 00:07:09:11 Pete There's a mother, but she gets shot. 00:07:09:15 - 00:07:11:24 Sam You can see the flowers. Come on. 00:07:12:18 - 00:07:17:17 Derrick But I mean, there's the parents in Tangled, but they're not there at all, right? 00:07:17:22 - 00:07:20:13 Sam They're not like any of the movie. And down there. Yeah. 00:07:20:26 - 00:07:28:17 Derrick Now we will get to what are some of our favorite Disney moms are. But Sam, I'm going to start with you. 00:07:29:10 - 00:07:29:24 Sam OK? 00:07:29:24 - 00:07:33:09 Derrick Is this story brave enough. 00:07:35:04 - 00:07:59:18 Sam I got to say no, it's not brave enough. I'm not saying this is a bad movie. It's not a bad movie, but it's also not a good movie. Right? It's just it's just very messy. We all use that term, you know, to to talk about various things. We've watched that we haven't really loved, but we don't hate. You know, this movie starts out really well. 00:07:59:18 - 00:08:23:12 Sam I think the this the sort of the start of the movie, the premise of the movie, you you know, Merida fighting for her own hand in marriage and being, you know, going sort of undercover as the as an archer in this competition to to win her own hand. Yeah, it starts out great. It's visually beautiful. The accents are wonderful. 00:08:23:12 - 00:08:47:16 Sam The voice the voice actors I think are great. I love Emma Thompson as the mother. I just love her in anything pretty much. So I think there's a lot of good stuff at the beginning of this movie, but then the movie just goes sideways and jumped the shark with the witch and the bear and all of that. And then it also doesn't ever help resolve the story of the other bear. 00:08:47:16 - 00:09:08:29 Sam The more due where it could have, we could have brought has seen that. So maybe broken in the movie and maybe that would have added another layer to it. I know there is the story of more dude, that's like an eight minute short on Disney plus if you want to watch that. It came up on Disney Plus as a suggested to watch after I watched Brave and I did watch it, but I didn't pay too much attention. 00:09:08:29 - 00:09:12:00 Derrick Is that anything new or is it just the same stuff from Brave? 00:09:12:05 - 00:09:40:12 Sam You know, I honestly wasn't paying enough attention to answer that question because it didn't really struck me in that right after I watch all of all of Brave and I'll be honest I didn't really remember Brave all that well from the first time or maybe even the second time I've seen it, I feel like it's just a movie that doesn't hold my attention super well because the story is so long and kind of kind of convoluted and silly. 00:09:41:06 - 00:10:10:24 Sam I think if they weaved in music into this movie, like, for example, Incognito is not my favorite Disney movie, but the music is fire. And so it kind of holds your attention because the music is so good. Perhaps if this was a musical, it would be better. But this is one of Pixar's, I'd say worse movies. And, you know, it's it's got so much great stuff and not a lot of math or not a lot of bad stuff. 00:10:10:24 - 00:10:21:00 Sam It's got a few math movies. But yeah, this one just does not I would say I would say not brave enough for me. Derek, what about you? 00:10:22:16 - 00:10:34:15 Derrick Yeah, I'm along the same lines I love I looked at I love the first 28 minutes until she starts following the sprites at that point. 00:10:34:15 - 00:10:37:05 Sam Totally. That's where it just goes off, right. 00:10:37:06 - 00:10:59:01 Derrick Yeah. That's where it goes off the rails and goes and is part of it's went to Sleeping Beauty it went to sleep. The, the plot all of a sudden just grinds way too slow. Yes. You have some of the stereotype pickle, you know human having to figure out how to be an animal starve guys. It's turning red with haggis. 00:10:59:16 - 00:11:00:05 Derrick I mean. 00:11:00:28 - 00:11:02:18 Pete It's it's not nearly as good as. 00:11:02:18 - 00:11:04:10 Sam Turning, right? Yeah, I know. There's some. 00:11:04:10 - 00:11:06:13 Pete Similarities. There's some similarities. 00:11:06:13 - 00:11:13:16 Sam I totally agree with you. The similarities. I really liked turning red. And this is not nearly as good as turning red, you know. 00:11:14:05 - 00:11:46:16 Derrick But I mean, the basic idea is the same. Yeah. So there were some there were some little things that I actually loved I love some of the details they got in there. I for those of you don't know, every Friday, guys, I wear a kilt to school, and so I and I have several of them. I love how they actually had them properly wearing the kilts and and I'm talking the what's under a kilt question. 00:11:46:16 - 00:12:08:05 Derrick That's nobody's business. I'm talking about how they had them folded and tight around them properly, which I really enjoyed I like the fact that, yes, they looked like Viking long ships at the beginning, but the early Scots were Nordic. OK, that's why there's so many similarities, especially among the carving in this stuff. 00:12:09:18 - 00:12:14:21 Sam By the way, the answer should be underwear. Oh, it's answer. 00:12:14:21 - 00:12:16:06 Derrick Should be, why are you asking. 00:12:16:06 - 00:12:20:21 Sam Them? I'm not going to ask, but the answer should be underwear. 00:12:22:16 - 00:12:46:26 Derrick I love I love the music. I totally agree. There should have been more songs, especially if they could have kept them a little bit more upbeat. But this this could have used what's known as the 1030 song in the musical this could have used a song like right before she figured out her and the mother got back together that there could have been a that would've been the perfect space for what essentially would have been a love song in any other movie. 00:12:47:16 - 00:13:09:04 Derrick Kind of a slow a little bit slower ballad. Yes. Said, I love the music. I love Miranda I love the King. This is not the mother you're looking for. She's she's overbearing. She is controlling. She is not a good mother. Now. She's not by far not the worst mother we watched this week, but she's not a good mother. 00:13:09:09 - 00:13:10:26 Derrick And this is not a good tell. 00:13:11:21 - 00:13:37:10 Pete Pete you've really hit the nail on the head with like this movie. Seemed like it had a lot of potential in the conflict of Merida, wanting to be your own person and everything like that. And then she I wouldn't say follow the sprites, but I'd say she met the witch and which throws darkness, though, right? Because like the witch shows up. 00:13:37:10 - 00:13:58:15 Pete And apparently the only things you can do is turn people into bears, which is kind of a funny joke, but not really. And then the rest of the movie is just like her trying to convert her mom back, but it's like, I don't know I mean, it's got that ticking clock plot that like, oh, you got a deadline to do this, but it never really feels like it's not going to happen. 00:13:59:11 - 00:14:20:22 Pete And I don't know, it just The Little Mermaid. Yeah, right. It just it just doesn't like you said, you're totally right. That first half hour is really, really interesting. And then the next hour just doesn't really work. And I can see and there's moments. There's moments that are good. 00:14:21:03 - 00:14:22:24 Derrick But they're short. 00:14:23:10 - 00:14:33:03 Pete Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. When I say moments, I mean, like, you know, 30 seconds, like little, little things there. I mean, having the brothers eat the thing and turn into bears. Two is cute. 00:14:33:16 - 00:14:35:17 Sam The brothers are adorable. The boys. 00:14:35:17 - 00:14:36:23 Derrick Are underutilized. 00:14:37:00 - 00:14:38:11 Sam Yes. Well. 00:14:38:21 - 00:15:00:27 Pete I don't know. To me, they're utilized enough. I wouldn't want more of them to be honest and fair. And, you know, I just I don't know. It it meant is good. I mean, it's it's like and I think that's why it feels like that, because it's like, oh, this movie's pretty good. You're watching the first half hour. And then it just kind of like it's the break. 00:15:01:04 - 00:15:23:03 Pete It just doesn't it becomes very uninteresting. You know, maybe the choices that Meredith makes don't make sense. Or something. I don't I don't know what it is, but the plot just doesn't it doesn't really work. And I don't know why, but. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm totally in agreement with you guys, and I'm thinking Gina's probably shaking her head saying the same four. 00:15:23:03 - 00:15:45:09 Gina Yeah, it's for four for the thing I wanted to add was I really enjoyed the fact that it's not a princess meeting a print story. That's the one thing I was like, yay, you're finally not doing that. It was 2012. That's groundbreaking. It's the first time. The funny part was, I'm doing whatever. I'm doing laundry. And I said, I just, you know, watch this four plus platoon. 00:15:45:09 - 00:16:05:08 Gina And my husband Brandon says, You're not really watching it. I said, Yeah, that's because I didn't say that, that this was did not hold my attention after 25 minutes, whatever 28, whatever the time was. Yeah, yeah. I said it's not holding my attention. So I'm just working around it. And then the other thing I wanted to say, Speaker Pete was saying Marita didn't learn any lesson. 00:16:05:08 - 00:16:18:27 Gina There was no lesson to be learned. There was no Aha moment. I think that was part of why it fell so flat. And then the mom never said, I'm so sorry, daughter, for being so controlling an overbearing. You don't have to get married. It was more like. 00:16:19:06 - 00:16:20:17 Derrick She kind of did say. 00:16:20:17 - 00:16:23:26 Pete That. Yeah, I'd say, I'd say she maybe learned a little bit, but yeah. 00:16:24:17 - 00:16:25:10 Sam She's mine. 00:16:25:14 - 00:16:27:29 Derrick I'm sorry. I'm sorry for running away is all. Yeah. 00:16:28:08 - 00:16:38:02 Sam Yeah. I think the mom does come around when she's still a bear and she's in the back of that home. Yeah, she's miming to me. I know what to say to the group. It's not. 00:16:38:02 - 00:16:40:15 Derrick Nearly as good as the chipmunk in Enchanted. 00:16:40:17 - 00:16:57:10 Sam Know. Gary agrees, but that's where it shows her mom learning the lesson. But it doesn't really show. I agree. It doesn't really show. Marita learning the lesson of why did you not just talk to your mom? Why did you go to run away? When they asked for a spell like that was. 00:16:57:10 - 00:17:13:28 Gina Really dumb spell. Yeah, it just don't have. Yeah, she didn't have that moment. And then, yeah, with the brothers, there was no moment for them. How come they turned into bears? There was nothing for them to learn. So I was like, That's dumb too. Doesn't. Yeah. Anyway, so ditto all around. 00:17:13:28 - 00:17:17:14 Pete Did they actually turn back into humans at the same time? I can't even remember. Yeah. 00:17:17:14 - 00:17:18:15 Gina Yeah, I'll turn back as they. 00:17:18:15 - 00:17:19:16 Derrick Start running around naked. 00:17:20:02 - 00:17:23:20 Gina Yeah, they were just q that were just cute. It's like, but what's the point? 00:17:23:29 - 00:17:28:13 Derrick As that says, it just goes to show good mothers don't only die. They become the reason for the rest of the movie. 00:17:28:27 - 00:17:30:13 Sam Yeah, yeah. 00:17:30:22 - 00:17:37:21 Derrick Ryan says he's never seen this movie and don't really want to. Glad you did for me. Yeah, we'll take that. We'll take that bullet sometimes. Ryan. 00:17:38:01 - 00:17:49:01 Pete This silly. This is definitely bottom tier Pixar. Yeah, as you guys said, not terrible. And I can only think of maybe one or two Pixar movies I would put in the terrible category. 00:17:49:01 - 00:17:51:10 Derrick I didn't like I to think like one. I'm in a. 00:17:52:12 - 00:17:53:25 Sam Fire and rescue you. 00:17:54:00 - 00:17:56:04 Pete Well, that doesn't count toward a real movie. 00:17:57:05 - 00:17:57:14 Sam Really a. 00:17:57:14 - 00:18:06:28 Derrick Movie. If you aren't planes itself, you are not the target audience. I had a eight year old boy who really enjoyed Planes Yeah. 00:18:07:19 - 00:18:09:01 Pete Yeah. So I would. 00:18:09:08 - 00:18:10:00 Gina I would argue. 00:18:10:17 - 00:18:18:16 Pete I would actually only probably put good dinosaur in that terrible category. Yeah. There are some people that will argue with me on that one, but I. 00:18:18:16 - 00:18:31:02 Sam Actually don't think that movie is terrible. I don't think that movie is great or even good kind of. I actually would put it in the same category as Brave. I would say it's kind of and I think Spot anything Spot is kind of adorable. 00:18:31:02 - 00:18:53:11 Pete So yeah, that that movie to me is never watch again. But even this movie, what I will say is like we did Toy Story a few months ago and I've seen Toy Story dozens of times and I watched it again, brave. I've probably seen I mean, I do have a daughter, so so I've probably seen it half a dozen times, not nearly as many times as Toy Story. 00:18:53:17 - 00:18:56:03 Pete I was like, I don't need to watch again. I know it. And. 00:18:56:12 - 00:18:56:22 Sam You know. 00:18:56:24 - 00:19:10:13 Pete Yeah. So I didn't I did not rewatch it, but I know it well enough to, you know, kind of go scene by scene in my head and yeah. Yeah. It just I mean, I know how you feel about it. When when my daughter was watching it, I would kind of tune out. 00:19:10:24 - 00:19:20:02 Derrick So, yeah. Steve says they also watched it playing in the background. I mean, it's a play in the background movie. Yeah. Nick says she's a better mother in the end. 00:19:20:27 - 00:19:21:29 Sam I think kind of. 00:19:22:11 - 00:19:31:16 Derrick Yeah. On this well on. But we don't know what she's actually going to be like. Yeah, she's had this big epiphany moment, but we don't see her actually being a better mother. 00:19:31:29 - 00:19:38:29 Sam Well, you presume she's a better mother because she's had this epiphany and she's giving going to give married up more freedom. 00:19:39:00 - 00:19:41:29 Derrick And she has literally let her hair down. 00:19:43:07 - 00:19:43:11 Sam And. 00:19:43:27 - 00:19:44:21 Gina She looks different. 00:19:45:02 - 00:19:52:15 Derrick Which I will say a person, a mother's age with gray hair, good representation because. 00:19:52:24 - 00:19:53:03 Sam Yep. 00:19:53:03 - 00:19:56:06 Derrick Spoiler alert, guys. Not everyone. 00:19:56:18 - 00:19:57:02 Gina This isn't. 00:19:57:02 - 00:19:57:16 Sam Real. 00:19:57:18 - 00:19:58:06 Derrick Israel. 00:19:58:12 - 00:19:59:10 Gina This isn't real. 00:19:59:16 - 00:20:04:07 Sam Yeah, this is real. But you can see right here this is real right there. 00:20:05:16 - 00:20:11:15 Derrick Yeah. As Nick says, when your children offer you food, be suspicious, especially if they've never offered food before. 00:20:11:17 - 00:20:12:16 Sam Good. They like. 00:20:12:27 - 00:20:15:28 Derrick Setting that a little tray for the Mother's Day type. 00:20:15:28 - 00:20:17:24 Sam Presence. A pretty, pretty. 00:20:18:14 - 00:20:25:10 Derrick Steve says it was their second time watching it and only because it was one of the topics tonight. Probably won't wash your third time. Steve, I think we're there with you. 00:20:25:11 - 00:20:26:03 Gina We're all saying. 00:20:26:07 - 00:20:45:09 Derrick Now we've all said that she's kind of an yeah. Disney mother. Nice who are or who is your favorite animated Disney mother? I'm not going to go watch any live action. Who is your favorite animated Disney mother, Pete. 00:20:47:00 - 00:20:55:19 Pete So I'm not I'm not going to pick an obvious one, but we are I mentioned it earlier. I'm going to pick and I don't even know if she has a name. The mom in the Toy Story. 00:20:55:19 - 00:20:56:23 Derrick Series, Andy's mom. 00:20:57:00 - 00:20:57:14 Sam Mom. 00:20:57:14 - 00:21:17:28 Pete And his mom. Sure. We'll call her that. She is like she's a single mom. We don't know why she's a single mom, but whatever reason she's a single mom, that's a hell of a job to take on. And she raises two really great kids. She lets him keep his toys as long as he wants. Doesn't put pressure on the kid. 00:21:18:13 - 00:21:23:04 Pete You know, she you know, there's really, like. 00:21:23:21 - 00:21:24:29 Sam Terror in all those movies. 00:21:24:29 - 00:21:30:17 Pete Is there anything she does that's bad? Not really. You know, other than, you know, she's she's I'm mean. 00:21:31:27 - 00:21:37:17 Sam She accidentally takes the trash, the toys down to the curb. Right. But it's an accident. 00:21:37:28 - 00:21:39:03 Derrick There's no malicious intent. 00:21:39:07 - 00:21:40:01 Sam Exactly. 00:21:41:17 - 00:21:59:08 Pete So I think and partly because there's not a lot of moms out there in the animated movies. But I would pick her because you know, she does just about everything. Right? She even gets Andy a dog. And, you know, the toys might not be too happy about that. But, you know. 00:21:59:18 - 00:22:00:06 Gina There at the end. 00:22:00:10 - 00:22:00:29 Sam So they are. 00:22:01:17 - 00:22:05:19 Pete I was not really I was we were not that good parents. We would not get our daughter a dog. So. 00:22:06:16 - 00:22:14:24 Sam But you got a cat. So, yeah. Having to tell that's screening for sex. 00:22:15:05 - 00:22:37:11 Gina Know for me it's Alaska girl. Go with Mrs. Incredible. She at first is kind of overbearing and controlling and says don't use your powers. But as she realizes how much they help her at the end, she evolves and that's all I need. I see the mom to evolve. So she evolved into being a better mother by realizing, oh, my kids can use their powers and they can keep it under control. 00:22:37:11 - 00:22:46:29 Gina It's my favorite scene as second go for second. I love that. So that's it's just like OK, that last a girl. That's a great about you, Sam. 00:22:47:22 - 00:23:11:09 Sam So I picked two because I was afraid somebody was going to take my first choice but but nobody has. So I'm going to go and this is going to be obvious, and I don't care. There's the most nurturing and protective mother out there in animated Disney, Mrs. Jumbo. This jumbo is she will kick butt and take names of anyone who tries to come after her baby boy. 00:23:11:13 - 00:23:33:11 Sam She will protect him, not let them make fun of him. She is a wonderful mother, and she encourages him. She is, you know, the the movie well, it's one of the Disney movies. And I always, always cry while watching the scene. Baby mind don't you cry. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. All the tears but it's like this is this is the mother. 00:23:33:11 - 00:23:48:03 Sam This is the mother of all mothers. The mother to live up to, the mother to bow down to. She is incredible. I will give the honorable mention to Mrs. Potts. That's all I'm going to say. OK, she's a great she's a great mom. Yeah. 00:23:48:24 - 00:23:50:22 Pete Except she has 12 children and ignores the. 00:23:51:04 - 00:23:53:23 Sam They've of one of them. But I to say. 00:23:53:23 - 00:24:13:15 Derrick Let the record show I originally wanted to do Dumbo. I think so because and this makes me glad I actually chose a third option because this was number one and that was number two. So this is Jumbo was my number one and this one was my number two. My number three. I'm going to go one. Not quite traditional. 00:24:13:24 - 00:24:15:22 Derrick How about Madonna's grandmother? 00:24:16:09 - 00:24:20:12 Sam I love that. I was thinking back to America. She was on my list the. 00:24:20:23 - 00:24:35:25 Derrick Embraces, the crazy embrace, doesn't care what people think, tells them, want to do what she can and is OK if she failed she said, I can't do this. And she says, OK, I love you anyway. I'll be with you wherever you are. 00:24:35:29 - 00:24:39:06 Sam And she's a stingray. I mean, come on, girl. 00:24:39:24 - 00:24:40:18 Derrick Or manta ray. 00:24:40:18 - 00:24:42:18 Sam But they're mandatory. Yeah. Yeah, but. 00:24:42:26 - 00:24:56:26 Derrick And she even tries to tell her own son off, say, knock it off. Let her do what she's going to do. So you guys, those out your who's your favorite Disney mom? Come on. We need some suggestions. I have gotten at least one other vote for Mrs. Jumbo. 00:24:58:22 - 00:24:59:16 Sam The best. Yeah. 00:24:59:17 - 00:25:01:10 Derrick Yeah. I mean, as I. 00:25:01:11 - 00:25:07:15 Pete I kind of. I admit, that's a great mom. I voted against the movie because I can't stand the movie. But the. 00:25:07:15 - 00:25:08:08 Gina Movie is so hard. 00:25:08:19 - 00:25:13:04 Sam It's. Yeah. Oh, son. Nick is saying Sorry, Robbie. 00:25:13:14 - 00:25:14:05 Gina Yeah. No, my. 00:25:14:05 - 00:25:16:04 Derrick Bad is she gives the kid a bath. 00:25:17:03 - 00:25:18:22 Sam She's cute. I like her. 00:25:18:27 - 00:25:20:13 Derrick I mean, she's not that involved. 00:25:20:13 - 00:25:21:19 Pete She doesn't have a big part. 00:25:21:19 - 00:25:21:26 Sam Now. 00:25:22:06 - 00:25:30:26 Derrick Then I will say, and I'm sure we all have our Steve's got another vote. Brandy's mom I know we all have our least favorite Disney mother. 00:25:30:26 - 00:25:32:26 Sam What about Lilo? What about Lilo? 00:25:32:26 - 00:25:33:15 Gina Noni? 00:25:33:21 - 00:25:35:09 Derrick Noni there. OK. 00:25:35:21 - 00:25:36:03 Sam Yeah. 00:25:36:05 - 00:25:37:28 Gina Yeah. Not exactly mother. 00:25:37:28 - 00:25:46:07 Derrick Figure ads. Ads going for Mrs. Jumbo also. So there are a few when she's alive. 00:25:46:08 - 00:25:48:16 Gina Bambi's mom yeah, for sure. 00:25:49:00 - 00:25:51:04 Derrick I mean, when she's alive. And you try. Yeah. 00:25:51:13 - 00:25:56:12 Sam Even Elsa and Honest Mom parents. I mean, their parents in general. Yeah, but they're. 00:25:56:24 - 00:25:59:17 Pete They're they're terrible, though. Their decision, they. 00:25:59:17 - 00:26:00:16 Derrick Lock her up. 00:26:00:18 - 00:26:03:00 Pete Right? Let's lock the two children apart. 00:26:03:21 - 00:26:08:13 Sam That is nice. Never let them face that. Those darn trolls they give them bad advice. 00:26:09:20 - 00:26:13:02 Gina Tangled Rapunzel's parents were great. They still looked for her. 00:26:14:06 - 00:26:15:26 Sam They threw a festival in her honor. 00:26:16:08 - 00:26:16:16 Gina Every. 00:26:16:16 - 00:26:16:29 Sam Year. 00:26:17:07 - 00:26:25:21 Derrick So I will say one of my one of the most. And that kind of gives credit that I don't think she deserves. Duchess in Aristocats. 00:26:26:21 - 00:26:26:27 Sam Hmm. 00:26:27:07 - 00:26:29:03 Derrick She's just kind of man. 00:26:29:04 - 00:26:29:15 Sam Oh. 00:26:30:01 - 00:26:32:12 Pete I. Go on. I didn't even think of Perdita. 00:26:33:00 - 00:26:33:27 Sam Yes. Oh, yeah. 00:26:33:27 - 00:26:41:29 Derrick Perdita goes with. She's not any kind of a leader. But she's a great follower and she's a great while she goes, she's on the whole trip to get the. 00:26:41:29 - 00:26:42:08 Sam Yeah. 00:26:42:18 - 00:26:46:28 Pete I go and bring you to go after the kids. And so yeah. And she adopts. 00:26:47:14 - 00:26:49:16 Sam All the babies I. Yeah. 00:26:49:20 - 00:26:51:09 Pete Happy children. Would any of you do that? 00:26:51:09 - 00:26:55:29 Sam No, no, no. Sarah Holly disagrees with you. Holly is saying that says. 00:26:56:19 - 00:26:57:29 Derrick She likes customers together. 00:26:58:00 - 00:26:58:03 Sam Yeah. 00:26:58:23 - 00:27:23:03 Derrick She's a loving mother. Yeah. But when the cats are in trouble, she's not the one that goes after them. They're true. It's it's this. It's the guy who sees them walking down the road and thinks she's pretty. It goes after him and all his band mates, so. Oh, hey, now, as we normally do pixie dust ratings, you give it a pretty tough rating out of five. 00:27:23:11 - 00:27:27:14 Derrick Since you're to my left. Pete, I'm starting with you. Pixie dust out of five. 00:27:28:07 - 00:27:32:26 Pete I'm going to give this one. I think I'm going to give this one like a. 00:27:34:10 - 00:27:35:10 Sam Who. 00:27:35:22 - 00:27:55:05 Pete I think two, maybe two and a half, but I'm going to go with two. It's OK. I wouldn't I wouldn't even necessarily tell anyone to watch it. And that's why I'm going to give it such a low thing. I mean, it's it's not that it's bad or anything like that, but like if someone were would said to me, would you, you know, would you recommend watching Brave? 00:27:55:05 - 00:27:58:14 Pete I'm going to say kind of no. So two. 00:27:59:18 - 00:28:00:24 Sam Yeah, I'm you know, I'm. 00:28:01:00 - 00:28:09:26 Gina I'm 2.5. I gave it an A for effort. It really tried at the beginning there. And then the just the plot was an F, so it's in the middle point five. 00:28:11:00 - 00:28:28:23 Sam Oh, this is a hard one. I struggle between giving it a 1.5 and a two. I don't, I don't even think it's deserving of a 2.5. But because the first 30 minutes are, are good and because it is beautifully animated. I got to go with it too. Yeah. 00:28:29:02 - 00:28:49:14 Derrick Derek I'm going to go with two. This is one I actually wish I could give like a 2.252 just because it's a little bit better than some of the stuff have given the 22. But it's not quite as good as some of the stuff I've given it. 2.52. So yeah, I got to slide to the, the two side of this. 00:28:50:07 - 00:29:03:06 Derrick Steve's that are 2.5, makes it a 2.5. So all in all, no one really liked this movie. So Holly says two and a half love the song Touch the Sky. Totally agree. 00:29:03:12 - 00:29:07:25 Pete The songs are really good. Too bad they they also stop after 30 minutes. 00:29:07:25 - 00:29:15:06 Sam Yeah, yeah. They just they need more. There's like this is not a musical movie. It's it needs to be it would be so much better would be. 00:29:15:07 - 00:29:15:18 Gina Better. 00:29:15:18 - 00:29:17:20 Sam With you with more music. Good. Yeah. 00:29:17:20 - 00:29:28:13 Pete Well, I think I think they're Pixar has been hesitant to step on the Disney musical thing. So, I mean, the closest we got was Coco. 00:29:28:24 - 00:29:37:16 Sam Yeah, but they went with a princess. Like, if they're going to go with if you're going to go, like, Disney Princess, go for on musical, that's, that's the formula that works. 00:29:37:19 - 00:29:49:20 Pete But even do like, I mean, this movie did like Tarzan, right? It was the songs were part of it, but the character didn't sing it. Yeah, but yeah. Give us a couple more songs. I agree with you. I think yeah. 00:29:52:09 - 00:29:58:27 Derrick Yeah. So I was I was going to say one of the closer ones, Pixar ones was the original Toy Story. There were like three or four songs in that. 00:29:59:20 - 00:30:00:02 Sam Yeah. 00:30:00:06 - 00:30:02:22 Pete Yeah. But I mean, that was again, songs. 00:30:02:22 - 00:30:04:08 Derrick Use songs not sung by people. 00:30:04:10 - 00:30:05:03 Sam Used for. 00:30:05:03 - 00:30:08:23 Pete Mood, but not sung by those. But those three songs. 00:30:08:23 - 00:30:09:18 Derrick Are all excellent. 00:30:09:20 - 00:30:11:09 Sam So yeah, it helped them. 00:30:11:12 - 00:30:12:05 Gina Move the story. 00:30:12:09 - 00:30:18:12 Derrick Yeah. And as Ed says, he's washing dishes, not even stopping to bother with the score. Yeah, yeah, it's about there. 00:30:18:19 - 00:30:21:19 Sam But he did stop to comment we know. 00:30:22:06 - 00:30:23:10 Gina That's good for us. It's good for us. 00:30:23:26 - 00:30:28:22 Derrick The other thing we watch this week was episode five of Moon Night. 00:30:29:03 - 00:30:31:18 Sam This was a terrible idea for Mother's Day, you guys. 00:30:32:07 - 00:30:33:18 Gina I know, I know, I know. 00:30:33:18 - 00:30:38:12 Sam We need to go tonight. Tonight? What the heck are you doing? I think Mother's. 00:30:38:12 - 00:30:49:18 Pete Day. I don't know if I was the first one to watch it but I you know, we have a we have a a group chat, and as soon as I watch it, I say, you know, this one's going to fit in really well with the theme of the day. 00:30:49:18 - 00:30:52:00 Sam Yeah. Yeah. I think you and. 00:30:52:00 - 00:31:10:21 Derrick I both watched it that first. Sometime during the day. That first day. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, now, unfortunately, guys, Micah is not able to join us, but off air, he and I have had about a 30 minute conversation on MU night, so I can hopefully answer some of the questions that he would be able to answer, or at least give educated guesses. 00:31:10:25 - 00:31:35:02 Derrick What he and I talked about some of the comments on Monday night. To me, this was a, this was of the, of all of them. This was the most straightforward episode this was him reliving his past and trying to figure out what's real and what's not we figure out where Stephen comes from, which is such a terrible story. 00:31:35:20 - 00:31:41:22 Derrick The fact that that's who is basically he was his escape mechanism from his son. 00:31:42:00 - 00:31:45:24 Pete It's a tragic story, but a power, I thought. 00:31:45:24 - 00:31:47:03 Derrick Powerful, powerful. Yeah. 00:31:47:04 - 00:31:49:26 Gina I actually really loved I love to how they did it. 00:31:49:26 - 00:32:07:28 Derrick Yeah. Did not necessarily did not necessarily need the I think this brother dying would have been enough. Yeah. Not necessarily the mother abusing him. Well, which brings up the question, well, who is Stephen actually leaving the messages for when he's talking to mom? 00:32:08:14 - 00:32:10:06 Gina So who's talking? Yeah. 00:32:10:16 - 00:32:30:18 Pete So one of the things is so at the at the end of the episode when he when he when he's not going into the Shiva and he convert, I think I'm saying that. Right. Yeah. And then he converts to Stephen, he's talking on the phone and you can actually see he's not talking. The phone is not it's like. 00:32:30:18 - 00:32:32:01 Derrick It's like Google Maps or something like. 00:32:32:01 - 00:32:37:18 Pete That. Yeah. He's not actually calling anyone. So it might be that he does his dad. 00:32:38:02 - 00:32:38:18 Sam Yeah. Yeah. 00:32:39:02 - 00:32:39:19 Derrick That's fair. 00:32:41:24 - 00:33:03:11 Sam It's how come I want to get the question and see maybe if you know the answer to this from talking to Micah, how come? So I get that in order to kind of move forward in his heaven or hell kind of decision making. He's got to get rid of Stephen, right? He's got to acknowledge his past and get rid of Stephen. 00:33:03:19 - 00:33:14:05 Sam But I thought there is a third personality that we haven't seen well and the balancing of the scales from stuff doesn't make sense without taking into account this third person. 00:33:14:10 - 00:33:19:10 Derrick Unless there unless the third person left, there were three of them. And that's why it didn't balance. 00:33:19:24 - 00:33:33:23 Sam Well, yes, I agree. But how can he how how can he right the ship? I guess if it's not, it's not for acknowledging a third personality and shoving them off of the boat as well. And I did this. 00:33:34:06 - 00:33:41:10 Derrick And this is one where in talking to Micah that deviates from the comics, this whole this storyline is not necessarily in the comics. At all. 00:33:41:21 - 00:33:41:27 Sam Right. 00:33:42:22 - 00:34:04:23 Derrick I would say. And something that I've seen has Brian brought up I think we've seen Jake. I think we've seen the third personality. Yeah. I think Jake was the guy with the broken nose in the office. I think that because the accent's different. Yeah. And his attitude's different and he tries his attitude towards very violent is different. I think that's Jake, right? 00:34:04:25 - 00:34:12:18 Pete Go go back and watch that. That's one of the scenes with hair. There's three scenes with Harrow and the Middle One. He has like a broken nose and he has a Band-Aid. 00:34:12:28 - 00:34:13:08 Derrick Yeah. 00:34:13:16 - 00:34:16:28 Pete And is like, as you say, he's he sounds like he's from, like, Brooklyn or something like that. 00:34:17:05 - 00:34:17:19 Sam Mhm. 00:34:17:28 - 00:34:21:18 Pete And yeah, I wondered if that was that was actually. 00:34:21:18 - 00:34:21:27 Derrick Yeah. 00:34:21:27 - 00:34:25:10 Pete Jake are they're tending to be Steve. Pretending to be Mark. 00:34:26:03 - 00:34:39:05 Sam So Steve's comment is exactly what I was thinking. So thank you for bringing it up, Gina. I thought it would have balanced when a third part was added to the sketch. I think you're exactly right. But that didn't happen. You didn't see Jake on the boat. 00:34:39:18 - 00:34:44:20 Derrick And the balance. It's not necessarily balanced. It's it kept wavering back and forth. 00:34:45:20 - 00:34:49:16 Sam That it needs to, it needs to go to one side or the other, right? Yeah. 00:34:51:00 - 00:34:59:20 Derrick Then now, remember last week we talked about how there's potentially some throwbacks to like the little girl in episode one. 00:35:00:02 - 00:35:00:20 Sam Yeah, we talked. 00:35:00:20 - 00:35:13:06 Derrick About that in episode one. She makes the comment to Steven, Did it suck for you getting rejected from the field? Who reads Ray? He gets rejected from the field. 00:35:13:06 - 00:35:14:04 Gina Wrigley Field reads. 00:35:14:18 - 00:35:14:29 Sam I mean. 00:35:15:02 - 00:35:27:19 Derrick So the whole cyclical thing there is very interesting. Also, I think the song over the credits, the lyric is Beyond the Sun. I have a home. 00:35:28:19 - 00:35:28:28 Sam Hmm. 00:35:29:06 - 00:35:31:19 Derrick So I think that's important. 00:35:33:28 - 00:35:39:11 Derrick To me, guys. I think they should have been like episode three or episode four. This is not a penultimate episode. 00:35:40:05 - 00:35:42:18 Sam Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's still too much unresolved. 00:35:42:27 - 00:35:46:12 Pete Like, there's a lot to wrap up, but obviously they're going to be the. 00:35:47:01 - 00:35:50:24 Derrick Partially because report time for final episode is 42 minutes. 00:35:51:03 - 00:35:55:06 Sam What? Yeah. Even so, it's a shorter applesauce order now. 00:35:55:16 - 00:36:09:28 Derrick Something, something that's interesting though, they have gone from calling this either the finale of Moon Night or the series finale of Moon Night in the last week, it has switched to the season finale of Moon Now. 00:36:09:29 - 00:36:12:20 Sam Oh, so, so interesting. 00:36:12:20 - 00:36:37:28 Pete So I, I wonder if the ratings are doing really well. I mean, I'm just speaking for myself. Obviously, every show, every almost every episode of the show, the show has gotten better for me. And it has not this has not been a super action show there. I mean, it's clearly Marvel, but to me, it's not it's very different with only probably one division being more different than. 00:36:38:10 - 00:36:38:17 Pete Yeah. 00:36:39:05 - 00:36:41:24 Sam The typical Marvel. Super Marvel but. 00:36:41:24 - 00:36:46:08 Pete But even one division at the like, the end of one division was very Marvel's. 00:36:46:09 - 00:36:46:26 Derrick Very marvel. 00:36:47:22 - 00:36:48:22 Sam Yes. To fight. 00:36:49:01 - 00:37:12:29 Pete So but but overall, that show was not was not, you know, typical Marvel. This show has been to me very not typical Marvel. And gosh, I'm just I'm just like I'm watching it with like, what's going to happen next? And like, I mean, as I said this the episode is very, you know, the information to me and fed to us was very disturbing. 00:37:12:29 - 00:37:21:21 Pete But you still wanted to and you kind of could figure what was coming, but it still was like you couldn't you couldn't look away. And then Nick just. 00:37:21:21 - 00:37:29:21 Sam Kind of hated it, though, because of that. Yeah. And it's like it was it was so but it was so hard to watch. It was so but it was. 00:37:30:08 - 00:37:30:27 Pete But like. 00:37:31:14 - 00:37:34:00 Derrick I will say, at least you didn't see her actually hit you. 00:37:34:13 - 00:37:37:03 Gina Yeah, but you it was all implied. We knew one. 00:37:37:03 - 00:37:46:06 Sam Same with the brother dying. You didn't actually see the brothers either. Say that. So just but it was so great. But but those things were so hard for me. 00:37:46:07 - 00:37:49:09 Pete But the dude's got dissociative personality disorder. 00:37:49:09 - 00:38:00:00 Sam You know, that explains it. Exactly what he did claims is his psychotic break is very well explained. I mean, either of those things standing alone could. 00:38:00:03 - 00:38:00:24 Gina Would cause. 00:38:00:24 - 00:38:05:02 Sam Triggering a psychotic break. Yeah, and even some of them in combination. 00:38:05:09 - 00:38:13:29 Pete Like, I mean, we talked about the bad mom, but really the dad. Dad wasn't much help either, but he price electricity. 00:38:13:29 - 00:38:15:16 Derrick At the birthdays. He's trying. 00:38:15:16 - 00:38:27:06 Sam He's trying, but he's being good parents. But but the best thing for his son would be to take him away from the abusive mother. That would be. That's right. And he's a really good parent, right? Yes. Yeah. But, yeah. 00:38:27:10 - 00:38:30:28 Derrick If you go back then Jewish divorce back then would be. 00:38:30:28 - 00:38:33:26 Sam Oh, absolutely. A complete taboo. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. 00:38:34:18 - 00:38:49:11 Pete But it's still I don't know is and Nick mentions loving the Hippo. I thought that character's cat characterization was great, that it was, you know, this big, massive creature that's kind of like, oh, I don't really know what I'm doing. 00:38:50:00 - 00:38:52:04 Sam And I've never seen it before. 00:38:52:12 - 00:38:56:07 Derrick Comedic relief in a pretty weighty. So. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Yeah. 00:38:56:17 - 00:39:06:01 Sam I'm I'm curious, you know, whether whether anybody knows if the comic book character was Jewish or. Yeah, you mentioned sort of. Yes. 00:39:06:21 - 00:39:18:04 Derrick Yes. The Mark slash all the characters are Jewish. So it's, you know, what are some of your thoughts? 00:39:18:22 - 00:39:42:22 Gina So here's what I really enjoyed the psychotic break explaining I did say this before. I liked the explanation because that gave me that made him real for me this whole time. Mark and Stephen were not real. They were just caricatures of people. And then when I saw that, I was like, oh, it it's always been Mark. And Stephen is here to not have the bad life, to have the good life. 00:39:42:22 - 00:40:01:17 Gina And I and Mark explained that it's like I created you to be that to have a good life. And I loved that scene. When he finally figures out I'm a character from a movie I'm not evil, I'm the Tomb Raider, whatever, that I forgot about that traitor, but whatever. I loved that. I loved that he was from he figured out he was from the movie. 00:40:01:17 - 00:40:21:27 Gina So I did enjoy that very much. And then the other thing that I loved, I did love the Hippo. She added some levity. I loved the boat. I loved the ship. I, I hated the asylum, the entire asylum episode. I hated everything about the asylum in itself, but I loved the ship and the escape. That's where he's where, where he really is to reality of the ship. 00:40:21:27 - 00:40:42:08 Gina And figuring out how do I balance my self and become become moonlight and be moonlight. So I think that's the to answer this question, where do we go from here? We get to see moonlight, like for real as this as a hero, not as this crazy person. That's my that's my answer. To the question. 00:40:43:12 - 00:41:05:23 Sam Sam I don't know. I where do we go from here? This is such a hard question. Obviously, he's got to get back into the living world. He's not going to go to heaven or hell. He's going to come back into the living world. I agree with Gina. He's going to be moonlight. But we I we've got to still see this this third personality Jake. 00:41:05:23 - 00:41:34:23 Sam Maybe we'll see that back in the real world. You know, I still I still have no idea where we're going. I have no idea how we're going to wrap this up in one more episode. And I as much as I do, I really liked the episode we watched last week. And I liked that this episode kind of resolved the whole asylum thing and that we did learn where the D.i.d disorder came from. 00:41:35:05 - 00:41:48:22 Sam But I, I really can't say I like this episode because I just found it. So I found it so disturbing to watch, to be perfectly honest. So, yeah, I guess the answer is I have no idea. Derek, where do you think it's going? 00:41:49:00 - 00:41:50:20 Derrick Well, I get Derek before. 00:41:50:21 - 00:42:18:22 Pete Before Derek goes. Yeah. So I just want to I just wanted to comment. The other thing that we saw in that episode, one of the scenes on the boat, the hippo who I can't remember her name they're talking about like souls being sent to before they're to stand before their time, implying that hero has already released Emmett in the real world. 00:42:18:22 - 00:42:34:24 Pete So when he gets back to the real world, we're, we're, we're going to skip over completely the release of Emma and all that kind of stuff, which I think is kind of cool that like, OK, we don't need to see that stuff. We know it's going to happen. You know, how just how is it going to resolve. 00:42:34:25 - 00:42:37:21 Sam So that's helpful in moving the plot along, I guess. 00:42:37:21 - 00:42:50:25 Pete Yeah, right. Yeah, that but but it's like, you know, typically you would see that, you know, there would be like a ten, 15 minute scene of, you know, releasing Emmett and like, I'm kind of glad we're not seeing that because we've seen that 100 times in movies. 00:42:50:25 - 00:42:52:24 Gina Every every time. Yeah, we see it every time. 00:42:52:24 - 00:43:06:19 Pete So so like it's just going to be OK. How can, how can moonlight defeat him or whatever that I hope that that's what we're going to see, but I'll leave it to Derek to wrap it up because he talked to Mike and I'm guessing Mike had some. 00:43:06:19 - 00:43:07:21 Gina Has some time. 00:43:07:21 - 00:43:31:07 Derrick Between Mike and I. We have we have some big theories. Yeah. One of them is one of the questions is have we seen the last of Stephen? You and I both agree. Probably not. We have probably seen not even. Yeah. Yeah. Another question is, are the so you had the the gods at the in episode two or whatever that locked console into the end of the stone. 00:43:31:15 - 00:43:31:21 Sam That. 00:43:32:01 - 00:43:44:26 Derrick Are they going to stand by and do nothing or are they actually going to become and have their avatars be more engaged with humanity? The other thought is consciousness now on that wall of all of those gods. 00:43:45:05 - 00:43:45:15 Sam Yes. 00:43:45:17 - 00:43:50:24 Derrick Is that whole wall going to get destroyed? And we release all those. 00:43:50:24 - 00:43:51:11 Sam Gods. 00:43:51:26 - 00:43:53:21 Derrick And the thought is the. 00:43:53:22 - 00:43:55:00 Sam Jailbreak of God. 00:43:55:05 - 00:44:05:10 Derrick Well, with the God killer being the main villain in Thor in in Thor yeah. That may be an impetus for that to happen. 00:44:08:10 - 00:44:15:23 Derrick We I mean, I think we all agree that concrete is going to be armored and that it's going to at least be go away for a while. 00:44:16:05 - 00:44:16:15 Gina Right. 00:44:17:16 - 00:44:24:03 Derrick I would not be a bit surprised to see an in credit scene in this episode tying it into where we're going to go next with the character. 00:44:24:15 - 00:44:25:07 Sam Yeah. Yeah. 00:44:26:23 - 00:44:33:17 Derrick I think that I think we're going to see a new character introduced. I think we're going to see Werewolf by Night. 00:44:34:11 - 00:44:34:29 Sam Oh. 00:44:35:07 - 00:44:39:06 Derrick The character that Moonlight was originally hunting. Yeah. 00:44:39:24 - 00:44:40:05 Sam Mm hmm. 00:44:40:10 - 00:44:53:21 Derrick Who in his first appearance in any Marvel comic and in is kind of a good guy, kind of one of those in the middle anti-hero Punisher. 00:44:54:06 - 00:44:56:12 Sam But more Punisher. 00:44:56:29 - 00:44:57:12 Derrick Yeah. 00:44:58:00 - 00:45:01:13 Pete Well, it's kind of like they're doing a Halloween special with that character, too, right? 00:45:01:19 - 00:45:04:18 Derrick Yeah. Mahmud Yeah. He is coming out in a Halloween special this October. 00:45:04:24 - 00:45:05:12 Gina Oh, OK. 00:45:05:22 - 00:45:26:17 Derrick It's just October, so that would make sense to introduce him now. Yeah. We've also got to figure out what's going on with Layla. We've got and the thought is, OK, so when we saw her dad dead, we you saw he had the scarlet thing with this. Yeah, embroidery of the scarab on it. 00:45:26:24 - 00:45:27:06 Sam Mm hmm. 00:45:27:13 - 00:45:30:10 Derrick Well, I think we talked last week about he was actually the scarlet scarab. 00:45:30:18 - 00:45:32:06 Sam Right. And is she going to take that? 00:45:32:06 - 00:45:35:07 Derrick She become the scarlet scarab. I don't think yeah. I don't. 00:45:35:07 - 00:45:35:27 Pete Think we're. 00:45:35:27 - 00:45:36:19 Sam Going to see that. 00:45:37:03 - 00:45:37:22 Derrick I think we will. 00:45:38:03 - 00:45:45:00 Sam But maybe in the future we might not see that in this. Yeah, we may not see that in this episode coming up, but we could see it in another season. Or I could. 00:45:45:20 - 00:45:51:23 Pete I could see in the post credit type thing, but I don't think it's going to happen in the episode itself. 00:45:52:00 - 00:45:52:08 Sam OK. 00:45:54:08 - 00:46:00:19 Derrick Let's see. Sorry, guys. Looking through my notes here real quick, any I want to know what happened to the original goldfish. 00:46:01:22 - 00:46:02:04 Sam Oh. 00:46:03:27 - 00:46:09:27 Derrick Well, and it's interesting, the poster they have released for this episode is the bad cough. 00:46:10:18 - 00:46:11:27 Sam Oh, cough. 00:46:11:27 - 00:46:14:08 Derrick He has coughing him to the bad. 00:46:14:17 - 00:46:17:22 Sam Yeah. So we will find out how he cuts and uncomfortable. 00:46:17:25 - 00:46:19:17 Derrick That we think he's cuffed for Jake. 00:46:20:20 - 00:46:25:09 Gina Aw, yeah. Well, but Steven was cuffed. Well, Steven was cuffed, so he didn't know about. 00:46:25:16 - 00:46:27:20 Derrick Himself because he knew he would get up and walk around. 00:46:27:21 - 00:46:31:19 Sam And he didn't know about it. Right. So that's where he was. 00:46:32:02 - 00:46:33:00 Derrick So one question. 00:46:33:11 - 00:46:56:26 Pete Yeah. I got one question about the one thing I found kind of confusing was the kept during the episode breaking back to Mark or and or Steven talking to Harrow as a psycho psychologist. Right. Was that also all in his head as well? That was that was that was the organizing principle. 00:46:56:26 - 00:47:18:00 Derrick That was all in his head. That was him trying to come to terms with what happened. Because one thing you notice and they did this very, very deliberately, if when you start talking about sense are nonsense right then and then you shoot up through the glass and it says or is it nonsense? So and they and they made that a very deliberate cut. 00:47:18:18 - 00:47:41:28 Derrick So and you look like his diploma is like degree of degree of psychology or something like that. So I mean, it's obviously not really that but no, it's it's very much an organizing principle, I think, is what she said. It's also interesting she said that this is an afterlife and he mentions the ancestral plane of Black Panther. 00:47:43:03 - 00:47:43:13 Sam And how. 00:47:43:13 - 00:48:03:20 Derrick She how she thought that was so precise. So that's how they kind of tie that together. Mike has also had the thought that Moon Night will continue on in some other series because he hooks up with Blade and he looks at with with some of the some of the I can't I want to see the dark heroes, but that's not the right term. 00:48:03:20 - 00:48:27:00 Derrick And he'll correct me next week. But yeah, Moonlight is in. There's a whole group of the anti-heroes that goes around and helps protect stuff. And Moonlight is one of those. So he's not Michael wasn't so sure about a second season, but he definitely thinks we see movement going forward. So Nick asks, do Mark and Jake know each other exist? 00:48:27:07 - 00:48:32:04 Derrick We like Stephen doesn't know about Jake. Jake knows about Mark and Jake knows about Stephen. 00:48:32:18 - 00:48:43:14 Pete Yeah, I got the impression that Mark because because there was that one scene in one of the episodes where they both accused each other of killing a bunch of people and neither. 00:48:43:14 - 00:48:50:16 Sam Neither, right? Mark I don't think. Mark So we don't know. Yeah. Mark and Stephen don't know of Jake, but Jake may know of Mark. Yeah, Stephen. Right. 00:48:50:18 - 00:49:00:21 Pete And I feel like we're going to only I feel like we're only going to find out about Jake at this point. I thought I thought we would have by now, but yeah, I think like literally at the end. 00:49:01:04 - 00:49:03:18 Sam Like very laughs all Yeah. Going to be. 00:49:03:18 - 00:49:05:10 Pete Like, hey, there was a third guy. 00:49:05:10 - 00:49:07:02 Sam Surprise. Yeah, yeah. 00:49:07:14 - 00:49:08:03 Gina And then like I. 00:49:08:03 - 00:49:08:14 Sam Said. 00:49:08:18 - 00:49:11:27 Derrick I don't have to wait until next week to get corrected because Mike is watching. 00:49:12:02 - 00:49:13:04 Gina Yeah. If I could just hold up. 00:49:13:10 - 00:49:14:08 Derrick The midnight sun. 00:49:14:08 - 00:49:17:09 Sam Now. There you go. Thanks, Mike. Yes. 00:49:17:29 - 00:49:25:12 Derrick I also just completely lost what I was going to say about John. 00:49:25:19 - 00:49:26:12 Sam Was it about Joe? 00:49:26:12 - 00:49:37:05 Derrick I don't I don't have any idea on this. I will say I'm looking very I'm looking forward to actually finishing this series. And I don't think I've really said that. 00:49:37:18 - 00:49:38:03 Gina Any. 00:49:38:28 - 00:49:47:04 Derrick No, I'm looking forward to it. To finishing the series, not looking forward to it being done. And then there's a difference. 00:49:47:10 - 00:49:52:14 Sam Well, I just want to point out that Vicki agrees with me that this was so hard to watch. You almost have to turn. 00:49:52:15 - 00:49:53:07 Derrick Oh, yeah. 00:49:53:07 - 00:49:56:19 Pete Yeah, it was it was it was definitely hard to watch, that's for sure. Yeah. 00:49:57:09 - 00:50:06:18 Derrick Yeah. I'm Steve says can't be the last time we see Stephen because the whole journey started with him. I would agree, Steve, to come full circle. Stephen would be the last character we see. 00:50:06:27 - 00:50:07:12 Gina Yes. 00:50:08:06 - 00:50:09:14 Pete But I, I. 00:50:09:25 - 00:50:10:15 Sam Unless I. 00:50:10:15 - 00:50:12:01 Gina Think it's going to be Jake, I think it's going to. 00:50:12:01 - 00:50:16:12 Sam Stay. Yeah, I think we're going to see Stephen again. But Jake might be the last character we see. 00:50:16:12 - 00:50:24:26 Derrick Yeah. Remember what I was going to say? They did bring in from the original comics. They did bring in the fact that there was a character called Bushman. 00:50:25:24 - 00:50:25:28 Sam Who. 00:50:25:29 - 00:50:27:26 Derrick Was actually the one that killed her father. 00:50:28:06 - 00:50:28:21 Sam Right. 00:50:29:04 - 00:50:32:18 Derrick He was originally supposed to be the original bad guy in this series. 00:50:33:03 - 00:50:33:21 Sam Oh. 00:50:34:03 - 00:50:47:26 Derrick So instead they brought in this super minded character, but it was because he was so similar to another Marvel villain that's coming up. I don't remember which one it is, but they didn't want to that crossed paths. 00:50:47:26 - 00:50:49:17 Gina There are many similarities. 00:50:49:17 - 00:50:52:25 Derrick Yeah, too many similar. I it then you know, all the Marvel villains. 00:50:53:05 - 00:50:57:03 Sam But except for Agatha yeah. 00:50:57:15 - 00:51:21:04 Derrick Well, kind of. But and yeah, Steve says he's enjoyed this series much more than I thought it would. Yeah. So, guys, next week is the finale we're going to be talking all new night because trust me, even if it's only 42 minutes long, there will be lots to unpack. And we should have Mike come back next week. Hopefully, we will definitely have confused Kate back next week so. 00:51:21:06 - 00:51:22:16 Sam You can get all the questions answered. 00:51:22:17 - 00:51:23:25 Derrick We get all the questions, answer. 00:51:23:26 - 00:51:24:21 Sam Lots of questions. 00:51:24:27 - 00:51:39:25 Derrick Where we go forward and guys, this is one of those please make sure you guys come with your questions to wait as far as the wait, what, how, what's going on? If you guys can email it to me, I'll get them to Mike in advance. So we're prepared with armor so we can actually do a little bit of research on them. 00:51:40:04 - 00:51:48:09 Derrick Email us that. Plus Platoon at Gmail.com have gotten a couple suggestions from Steve thank you, Steve. Those are some of those definitely are going on the list. 00:51:48:26 - 00:51:49:06 Sam Going. 00:51:49:06 - 00:52:07:06 Derrick To but we want to hear from more of you. So what suggestions what do you think we should watch because there's going to be a couple we're busy here for the next few weeks, but there's going to be some times in June and July where we're going to have some time to watch some stuff because Miss Marvel is not going to take a whole episode. 00:52:07:25 - 00:52:11:03 Sam True. So we could pull that from the vault. 00:52:11:12 - 00:52:28:23 Derrick Yeah, he put himself in the vault. Diamonds in the rough. We haven't done nearly enough of those, in my opinion. So if there is something very recent that you've seen, that you've really liked, that we haven't talked about, let us know. It doesn't have to be a series it can be a one off special. We are on Facebook.com. 00:52:29:18 - 00:52:53:09 Derrick We are on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram. We are everywhere. For Get a hold of us messages on Facebook. You can use Facebook Messenger to get a hold of us. It doesn't have to be an email. Everything is read, guys. Trust me, we're taking all your feedback and trying to implement as much as we can into the show. And with that being said, guys, I cannot wait. 00:52:53:09 - 00:53:00:00 Derrick This comes out at Midnight Pacific Time Episode six, which means it's 2 a.m. my time. 00:53:00:10 - 00:53:01:05 Sam So tomorrow morning. 00:53:01:19 - 00:53:06:01 Derrick I wish I wish it was midnight Eastern because I probably would stay up and watch it. 00:53:06:09 - 00:53:08:21 Sam Yeah, I'm going to watch this probably tomorrow night. 00:53:08:27 - 00:53:09:12 Gina Tomorrow night. 00:53:09:13 - 00:53:21:13 Derrick 45 minutes. So but yeah, I'll be looking for some of our reactions next week and we will see everybody then. I hope you everyone has a great week and see you next week, guys. 00:53:21:25 - 00:53:23:01 Sam Happy Tuesday.