Ep. 74 - Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness

00:00:51:11 - 00:00:53:24 It's time to heat up your frozen dinners. 00:00:53:28 - 00:00:58:18 Grab your TV tray and settle in for another episode of The Plus. 00:00:58:18 - 00:01:02:10 Lets in your podcast for All Things Disney Plus. 00:01:02:14 - 00:01:04:27 Brought to you by Disney Plus fans. 00:01:05:09 - 00:01:09:02 Watch along with us every week as we cover all the new, 00:01:09:06 - 00:01:12:24 the old, the good and the bad on Disney plus. 00:01:13:06 - 00:01:14:20 So put down that remote. 00:01:14:20 - 00:01:18:00 Don't touch that dial and welcome your fabulous 00:01:18:00 - 00:01:21:13 plus platoon host. 00:01:23:04 - 00:01:24:20 Everyone, welcome to the plus 00:01:24:20 - 00:01:28:20 splatoon where a Disney Plus fan podcast that gives honest 00:01:28:25 - 00:01:32:00 spoiler filled reviews of movies and shows on Disney Plus. 00:01:32:14 - 00:01:33:27 We'll look at new releases 00:01:33:27 - 00:01:36:16 coming attractions and we'll even go back into the vault 00:01:36:27 - 00:01:39:20 to revisit some of the classic Disney that's on the platform. 00:01:40:02 - 00:01:43:06 Make sure you subscribe and you will never miss a moment. 00:01:43:27 - 00:01:46:03 I'm going to bring in Pete tonight. 00:01:46:04 - 00:01:47:29 Pete, how's your evening going? 00:01:48:29 - 00:01:50:20 I'm doing great, Derek. 00:01:50:20 - 00:01:53:16 I'm glad to be here. I'm excited to talk about this movie. 00:01:53:16 - 00:01:56:09 I'm a pretty big Marvel fan, so I'm. I'm. 00:01:57:19 - 00:01:58:12 I'm happy to be here. 00:01:58:12 - 00:02:00:12 Yeah. Good. 00:02:00:12 - 00:02:02:24 And tonight, we've also got Sam. 00:02:02:24 - 00:02:04:26 Sam, nice to see you. 00:02:05:04 - 00:02:07:00 Nice to see you two gentlemen. 00:02:07:00 - 00:02:08:11 Nice to be here. 00:02:08:11 - 00:02:10:27 And it's nice that I got to actually 00:02:11:04 - 00:02:14:00 see and meet you in person just a couple of days ago. 00:02:14:00 - 00:02:15:13 Derek That was really fun. 00:02:15:13 - 00:02:17:08 That was so much fun. 00:02:17:08 - 00:02:20:04 For those who haven't seen it following our social media, Sam, 00:02:20:04 - 00:02:23:05 Kate and I met up for lunch at Disney World the other day. 00:02:23:08 - 00:02:25:01 So, yes. It's nice to see. 00:02:25:01 - 00:02:28:16 I'll get to know some of my fellow platoon owners in person. 00:02:28:20 - 00:02:31:28 Yes, we all live in different places around the country, 00:02:31:28 - 00:02:35:04 so it's nice when we all happen to be in the same place, 00:02:35:12 - 00:02:40:05 specifically Morimoto Asia for those ribs. 00:02:40:05 - 00:02:41:10 Yeah, not bad. 00:02:41:10 - 00:02:43:18 Pretty good ribs for Asian ribs. Very, very. Good. 00:02:43:21 - 00:02:46:12 Yes. 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Next time she's gone, you're up. 00:03:16:03 - 00:03:17:27 Okay, go. 00:03:17:27 - 00:03:20:21 Hey, so we have a lot of Disney plus news. 00:03:21:01 - 00:03:22:12 First, Deadpool. 00:03:22:12 - 00:03:26:24 Deadpool two and Logan have become the first R-rated movies on Disney. 00:03:26:24 - 00:03:32:15 Plus, they are behind the age verification code on the service. 00:03:32:23 - 00:03:37:07 If your account holder has not yet set this up, you cannot watch these movies. 00:03:37:07 - 00:03:42:01 Guys, I'd like to get your guys's opinion on rated-R movies on Disney. 00:03:42:01 - 00:03:43:27 Plus, these are the first ones on their. 00:03:46:06 - 00:03:46:22 You know, I 00:03:46:22 - 00:03:50:14 don't have a problem with them being on Disney plus I like that 00:03:50:14 - 00:03:54:06 they have sort of you can set it up right now where you can have 00:03:54:27 - 00:03:57:20 it being accessible or not being accessible, 00:03:57:20 - 00:04:00:10 or at least when they started releasing over, 00:04:00:18 - 00:04:03:07 you know, movies that are appropriate for over a certain age, 00:04:03:07 - 00:04:06:08 we had to sort of activate it so that you could access them. 00:04:06:18 - 00:04:09:07 I don't mind them being available. 00:04:09:07 - 00:04:11:22 They're available on every other streaming service. 00:04:12:02 - 00:04:16:15 I do think it's smart to have it sort of as a, you know, a pop up password 00:04:16:24 - 00:04:17:22 type of a thing. 00:04:17:22 - 00:04:18:27 So if you are 00:04:18:27 - 00:04:22:17 someone who lets your young kids watch Disney plus with unfettered access, 00:04:22:27 - 00:04:26:20 then they won't be able to just automatically access, 00:04:26:28 - 00:04:31:02 for example, Deadpool or this movie would be a perfect example. 00:04:31:02 - 00:04:33:09 Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness. 00:04:33:09 - 00:04:35:11 It is not behind the age restriction at. 00:04:35:11 - 00:04:36:29 All. See, this one should be. 00:04:36:29 - 00:04:40:11 So I'm going to I'm going to say that not all of the movies 00:04:40:13 - 00:04:43:10 should be behind the age restriction are R-rated movies. 00:04:43:10 - 00:04:47:15 There are some movies that are below that that I think 00:04:47:26 - 00:04:50:22 I don't really want my kid to have unfettered access 00:04:50:22 - 00:04:54:00 to this movie in particular or some other movies probably. 00:04:54:04 - 00:04:55:29 Yeah. What do you think, Pete? 00:04:55:29 - 00:04:59:01 Yeah, I mean, it it's a tough thing, right? 00:04:59:01 - 00:05:03:15 I mean, most Disney movies are rated PG or PG 13 00:05:04:16 - 00:05:05:09 Deadpool. 00:05:05:09 - 00:05:08:13 The Deadpool movies and Logan are both from Fox. 00:05:09:10 - 00:05:14:09 They're definitely R-rated movies, especially if you've seen the Deadpool 00:05:14:09 - 00:05:14:20 movies. 00:05:14:20 - 00:05:17:14 You should not be letting your kids watch those movies. 00:05:18:20 - 00:05:23:11 So I'm glad to see that Disney defaults, too. 00:05:23:11 - 00:05:28:10 That's the other thing point to Disney is Disney does default to your 00:05:28:21 - 00:05:31:14 that being behind a kind of behind a lock thing. 00:05:31:14 - 00:05:35:22 So if you it's not like you have to go in set it up like some of the other age 00:05:35:22 - 00:05:36:28 services like Netflix. 00:05:36:28 - 00:05:40:08 I think you have to set up for your kids, too 00:05:40:11 - 00:05:44:11 to lock out the older the older age content. 00:05:44:11 - 00:05:48:09 I would agree with what you're saying is that some movies, 00:05:48:09 - 00:05:49:12 some of the Marvel movies 00:05:49:12 - 00:05:53:21 probably should be behind that firewall and maybe a few others. 00:05:53:21 - 00:05:55:23 I mean, Disney's pretty 00:05:55:23 - 00:05:59:20 tame for the most part, but there's a few movies that maybe belong there. 00:05:59:20 - 00:06:05:11 And and this movie, while I wouldn't call it, are it is definitely 00:06:06:17 - 00:06:07:00 pushing the 00:06:07:00 - 00:06:10:13 PG 13 and especially for our the fright factor 00:06:11:19 - 00:06:15:06 I think more than more than the I don't think 00:06:15:06 - 00:06:19:05 there's particularly Gore in it, but I think there's a lot of scares in it. 00:06:19:05 - 00:06:22:16 So I would think a young child, you know, of six 00:06:22:16 - 00:06:25:22 or seven or something like that stumbling across this movie would 00:06:26:22 - 00:06:29:08 could definitely be freaked out by it. 00:06:29:08 - 00:06:30:17 Yeah, exactly. 00:06:30:17 - 00:06:33:28 If it if it could cause a nightmare, then to me it should be behind 00:06:34:20 - 00:06:36:19 behind a password protection. 00:06:36:19 - 00:06:37:14 But then again, 00:06:37:14 - 00:06:40:29 I know that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has been known to give kids nightmares. 00:06:41:07 - 00:06:44:13 So are you joking. 00:06:45:00 - 00:06:47:02 Me. When I watch it? 00:06:47:02 - 00:06:51:09 Think the truck driver, when she goes all claymation on, it goes. Oh. 00:06:51:10 - 00:06:52:29 Really weird face. 00:06:52:29 - 00:06:55:22 Oh, that got me because I wasn't expecting it. 00:06:55:22 - 00:06:59:12 So I know I think I think this to me 00:06:59:12 - 00:07:02:27 also signals the end that Hulu will be going away eventually. 00:07:02:27 - 00:07:05:01 I think it will become over on Disney plus. 00:07:05:01 - 00:07:07:26 So next we have got 00:07:08:04 - 00:07:12:02 it's been confirmed that the entire set of five I am Groot 00:07:12:02 - 00:07:16:03 animated shorts will be released on August 10th instead of as several weekly 00:07:16:20 - 00:07:17:22 weekly releases. 00:07:17:22 - 00:07:23:04 This follows all the other little animated segments that they've done recently. 00:07:23:16 - 00:07:25:13 Yeah. So probably more similar. 00:07:25:13 - 00:07:30:28 More similar to Olaf than to Baymax, I'm guessing. 00:07:31:29 - 00:07:33:26 I hope Baymax all came out at once, too. 00:07:33:26 - 00:07:34:21 Yeah. 00:07:34:24 - 00:07:35:05 Oh yeah. 00:07:35:05 - 00:07:36:18 No, I meant it in the sense of it 00:07:36:18 - 00:07:38:26 sounds like it's going to be even shorter than the Baymax one. 00:07:38:26 - 00:07:39:25 I'm hoping. Yeah. 00:07:39:25 - 00:07:42:05 I'm hoping they're, they're Baymax and 00:07:43:10 - 00:07:44:03 Doug days. 00:07:44:03 - 00:07:46:25 ESQ So 00:07:46:25 - 00:07:48:25 phases five and six at Comic-Con 00:07:48:25 - 00:07:52:05 this week have been announced along with tentative release dates. 00:07:52:05 - 00:07:54:21 There are one, two, three. 00:07:54:21 - 00:07:58:07 There are six series from Disney Plus that are part of this. 00:07:58:14 - 00:08:01:07 We've got She-Hulk coming out August 17th 00:08:01:22 - 00:08:04:13 yet released an updated trailer with new CGI. 00:08:04:14 - 00:08:07:21 I know that was the biggest complaint about the original trailer. Oh. 00:08:09:00 - 00:08:09:15 It will. 00:08:09:15 - 00:08:12:27 That show will be the end of of phase four, 00:08:14:12 - 00:08:15:12 which is what right now. 00:08:15:12 - 00:08:18:04 Wakanda forever is the interface for. 00:08:18:04 - 00:08:20:26 Is it is that the end of four is at the start of fact it's in the four. 00:08:20:26 - 00:08:21:09 Okay. 00:08:21:09 - 00:08:22:25 What kind of fire is this? 00:08:22:25 - 00:08:25:09 Would people have even know what any of the phases refer to? 00:08:25:09 - 00:08:26:14 I'm going to be perfectly honest. 00:08:26:14 - 00:08:29:26 I'm a pretty decent Marvel Cinematic Universe fan. 00:08:30:01 - 00:08:33:08 I don't many, many sections of the stories. 00:08:33:11 - 00:08:33:29 I think. 00:08:33:29 - 00:08:37:20 So phase four is really what they indicated 00:08:37:20 - 00:08:43:16 is it's the recovery from Endgame and the introduction of new characters. 00:08:43:16 - 00:08:46:02 And then phase five is going to be the build up 00:08:46:16 - 00:08:50:23 and then phase six is going to be the big multiverse. 00:08:50:23 - 00:08:52:22 Epic battle. Whatever. 00:08:52:22 - 00:08:53:12 Yeah. 00:08:53:17 - 00:08:55:23 The new the new Infinity War endgame. 00:08:56:08 - 00:08:57:09 Right? Yes. 00:08:57:09 - 00:08:58:26 Basically, yeah. 00:08:58:26 - 00:09:02:01 Think Base five is Age of Ultron. 00:09:02:01 - 00:09:05:01 Phase six is Infinity War Endgame. 00:09:05:08 - 00:09:07:18 Gotcha. So, okay. Um. 00:09:08:22 - 00:09:09:12 Okay. 00:09:09:12 - 00:09:13:07 We have secret invasion will be coming out spring of 2023. 00:09:14:03 - 00:09:16:25 Echo will come out in summer of 2023 00:09:16:25 - 00:09:20:05 with Kingpin and Daredevil both being signed. 00:09:20:13 - 00:09:23:10 It's also been confirmed that Daredevil is going to be in She-Hulk. 00:09:24:09 - 00:09:26:00 Oh. Nine. Appearance. 00:09:26:00 - 00:09:30:28 So we've got Loki season two in summer of 2023. 00:09:30:28 - 00:09:34:02 We have Ironheart in fall of 2023, 00:09:34:02 - 00:09:36:24 which will include Don Cheadle as returning. 00:09:37:13 - 00:09:38:10 Nice. 00:09:38:17 - 00:09:41:29 We have Agatha, which is now Coven of Chaos 00:09:42:24 - 00:09:50:03 oh eight instead of House of Harkness will be Winter of 2324 and then Daredevil 00:09:50:03 - 00:09:55:20 Born Again will be Spring of 2024 and that will be an 18 episode season. 00:09:56:04 - 00:09:57:11 Oh, so. 00:09:57:11 - 00:10:01:08 So basically what you're saying is, Derek, we're not going to give you any break 00:10:01:08 - 00:10:04:27 from the Marvel Cinematic Universe coming soon. 00:10:04:28 - 00:10:08:03 He's actually get a little break because after She-Hulk, there's nothing 00:10:08:03 - 00:10:10:26 until spring of 23. So. 00:10:11:08 - 00:10:12:28 So we'll have a little break. 00:10:12:28 - 00:10:14:11 Yeah, but I mean, 00:10:15:17 - 00:10:18:00 we can make our own breaks because I think we can always, 00:10:18:00 - 00:10:21:06 you know, don't have to do it every week as we saw with Ms.. 00:10:21:06 - 00:10:22:15 Marvel necessarily. 00:10:22:15 - 00:10:25:16 So we did have one movie announcement 00:10:25:16 - 00:10:30:05 that I wanted to touch on thunderbolts, who are the anti-heroes? 00:10:30:05 - 00:10:34:29 Will have a movie released in July of 2024, likely feature 00:10:34:29 - 00:10:39:03 several characters we've seen in previous series like Baron Zemo. 00:10:39:03 - 00:10:41:22 Oh, we've got Kroger, you know, we've got. 00:10:41:22 - 00:10:43:22 Chris bumping. Gone. 00:10:43:22 - 00:10:45:28 Yeah, we've got a. Trucker cap. 00:10:46:06 - 00:10:50:28 Kroger cap, we've got Black Widow Sister in there and definitely Valencia, 00:10:50:28 - 00:10:54:22 Alegria de Fontaine, the Julie Julia Louis-Dreyfus character. 00:10:54:28 - 00:10:57:04 Love it. Though, that will be there. 00:10:58:07 - 00:11:00:04 There's going to be three animated series 00:11:00:04 - 00:11:02:13 coming to Disney, plus 00:11:03:15 - 00:11:08:05 the previously announced Marvel's X-Men 97, which will basically be a reboot. 00:11:08:05 - 00:11:12:01 A continuation of the animated stuff that came out in 97 00:11:13:06 - 00:11:15:21 will come out in fall 2023. 00:11:15:29 - 00:11:19:25 What if he's getting a second season in early 2023? 00:11:21:18 - 00:11:25:17 That's not a so based on its influence on the MCU part four so far. 00:11:25:26 - 00:11:27:06 I know. I'm not. Surprised. 00:11:27:06 - 00:11:27:27 I know. 00:11:27:27 - 00:11:30:10 Well, they had said that already yet. 00:11:30:10 - 00:11:32:12 They were doing it. They just didn't have a date. 00:11:32:19 - 00:11:34:26 So that's now and then. 00:11:35:04 - 00:11:39:28 And then Spider-Man freshman year will be an original animated series 00:11:39:28 - 00:11:43:07 coming to the service in 2024, and it will include Daredevil. 00:11:43:22 - 00:11:46:24 No Daredevil is going to be in a lot of different stuff. 00:11:46:24 - 00:11:50:17 I wouldn't be surprised if he was kind of one of the one of The Avengers 00:11:50:23 - 00:11:54:06 that's going to kind of hold things together in this next set. 00:11:54:16 - 00:11:56:22 I tell you, people love Charlie Cox. 00:11:56:22 - 00:12:01:21 He was wonderful as Daredevil on Netflix, and I'm really glad to see 00:12:01:22 - 00:12:05:02 not only them bringing him, but bringing that show 00:12:05:13 - 00:12:09:28 really hopefully into the MCU, because it was so well done. 00:12:09:28 - 00:12:11:04 And it was far and away. 00:12:11:04 - 00:12:15:00 The best of the Netflix shows, I think totally agree. 00:12:15:05 - 00:12:19:11 And they did announce that Kang the Conqueror, played by the guy 00:12:19:11 - 00:12:25:10 who played it in Loki, is going to be your main bad guy for phases five and six. 00:12:25:18 - 00:12:26:01 Nice. 00:12:26:01 - 00:12:29:21 So, right, he's in he's in Ant-Man three 00:12:30:19 - 00:12:32:13 and then he'll be one of the Avengers 00:12:32:13 - 00:12:34:25 movies is called The Qing Dynasty, I think. 00:12:35:06 - 00:12:36:16 I think so, yeah. 00:12:36:16 - 00:12:40:03 And then there's also you're also going to be dealing with the skull invasion, 00:12:40:12 - 00:12:42:06 which we'll talk a little bit more about later, 00:12:42:06 - 00:12:44:13 actually tied in with the movie we watched. 00:12:45:01 - 00:12:47:27 So okay. 00:12:47:27 - 00:12:52:22 So if previous release schedules are any indication, Thor, Love and Thunder 00:12:52:22 - 00:12:58:17 will be coming out on August 24th, 47 days after its theatrical release. 00:12:58:17 - 00:13:03:03 This is the pattern followed by Shinji Lightyear and the Eternals. 00:13:03:03 - 00:13:05:10 However, we were talking a little bit beforehand 00:13:05:23 - 00:13:10:02 it could come out on Disney plus stay because they need a release on Disney 00:13:10:02 - 00:13:12:05 Plus Day, and I think that would actually be a decent one 00:13:12:05 - 00:13:14:04 because that's only a couple of weeks later. 00:13:14:04 - 00:13:15:01 Yeah, good point. 00:13:15:01 - 00:13:20:20 So National Treasure Edge of History released a teaser trailer this last week. 00:13:21:08 - 00:13:25:23 It's also been reported that and confirmed that Harvey Keitel will replace 00:13:25:23 - 00:13:30:07 Reprise his role as FBI agent Sandusky from the films. 00:13:30:25 - 00:13:33:24 I'm a big I was a big fan of those films, I have to say. 00:13:33:24 - 00:13:35:27 So I'm looking forward. 00:13:35:27 - 00:13:39:08 I think we need to maybe bring National Treasure, 00:13:39:08 - 00:13:42:00 the first movie out from the vault. 00:13:42:24 - 00:13:44:23 Yeah, well, you know what? 00:13:44:23 - 00:13:47:07 I wouldn't be opposed to that closer to when it's being released. 00:13:47:10 - 00:13:48:19 Yeah, sure. 00:13:48:19 - 00:13:49:28 Yeah, yeah, I'm. 00:13:49:28 - 00:13:51:08 I'm with Sam on that. 00:13:51:08 - 00:13:55:04 I would look forward to, especially because we have so much stuff 00:13:55:04 - 00:13:56:28 that is Marvel. 00:13:56:28 - 00:13:59:05 It's nice to have some things that aren't Marvel 00:13:59:05 - 00:14:02:28 and I did enjoy both of those original movies. 00:14:03:15 - 00:14:05:14 So what did the first one. 00:14:05:14 - 00:14:07:02 I like the first ones, the better. 00:14:07:02 - 00:14:09:04 The first the first ones, the better of the two. 00:14:09:04 - 00:14:11:13 But the second one is not bad. This one's not bad. 00:14:13:09 - 00:14:14:05 Now, reports have 00:14:14:05 - 00:14:19:15 come out that Disney Plus is in talks to bring Doctor Who to the service, 00:14:20:02 - 00:14:22:12 taking it away from BBC. 00:14:23:06 - 00:14:25:21 So that would be a big get. 00:14:25:21 - 00:14:27:19 That would be a. Few episodes or all the. 00:14:27:19 - 00:14:28:16 All new episodes. 00:14:28:16 - 00:14:29:25 New episodes. 00:14:29:25 - 00:14:32:04 These series moving to Disney plus. 00:14:32:05 - 00:14:34:02 Oh interesting. 00:14:34:02 - 00:14:37:25 So so not like, you know, just streaming of old stuff. Wow. 00:14:37:26 - 00:14:40:05 No new ones 00:14:41:17 - 00:14:42:16 announced, actually, 00:14:42:16 - 00:14:45:25 today, an Eragon series is in development for Disney. 00:14:45:25 - 00:14:49:01 Plus, sorry, according to sources, the author 00:14:49:01 - 00:14:52:20 author Christopher Paolini will be co-writer on the series. 00:14:53:08 - 00:14:54:18 So it's in early stages. 00:14:54:18 - 00:14:58:02 But these books are huge, especially among junior high kids. 00:14:58:16 - 00:15:01:11 So I never saw didn't they do a movie? 00:15:01:11 - 00:15:03:28 It was horrible. It was I. Never saw. Them go, yeah. 00:15:03:29 - 00:15:04:07 Yeah. 00:15:04:07 - 00:15:09:19 So and author Rick Riordan provided an update on the highly anticipated 00:15:09:19 - 00:15:13:15 Percy Jackson series and saying that it is likely not actually now 00:15:13:15 - 00:15:18:17 going to come out until 2024, but it is still in development. 00:15:18:17 - 00:15:19:25 They do still have characters 00:15:20:29 - 00:15:21:15 signed. 00:15:21:15 - 00:15:23:16 They have the actors they're going to do. 00:15:23:16 - 00:15:25:16 There's just a few delays. 00:15:25:16 - 00:15:29:13 So, guys, I told you there was a lot of Disney plus news this week and it didn't 00:15:29:24 - 00:15:32:05 I would not be surprised if we don't get a lot of 00:15:32:09 - 00:15:37:12 if we don't get a lot of Marvel on Disney plus I bet it's mostly other stuff 00:15:37:12 - 00:15:40:23 just because of all the marvel that came out at Comic-Con. 00:15:40:23 - 00:15:43:14 Yeah, there. There can't be much though. I will. 00:15:43:14 - 00:15:46:18 So they put up a image of phase five 00:15:46:18 - 00:15:49:10 and all the shows were filled in. 00:15:49:23 - 00:15:53:26 Then they put up an image of phase six, which just had three movies in it, 00:15:54:05 - 00:15:57:20 and it had, I think, five dates on it 00:15:58:11 - 00:16:00:14 that did not have things connected to them. 00:16:00:14 - 00:16:04:24 If you look at the image and they didn't they didn't have any series 00:16:04:24 - 00:16:06:03 that were in phase six. 00:16:06:03 - 00:16:11:03 So they I think they already so there is something that they could announce. 00:16:11:06 - 00:16:14:07 Yeah. As part of as part of Disney plus. 00:16:14:14 - 00:16:17:15 Especially if it's something Thor, if they would release Thor Love 00:16:17:15 - 00:16:22:23 and Thunder and announce a Thor, a new Thor movie in phase six. 00:16:22:29 - 00:16:23:12 Yeah. 00:16:23:12 - 00:16:27:06 So I could see, I could see some series being announced and because 00:16:27:17 - 00:16:32:16 at the last 23, they actually announced like She-Hulk and Ms.. 00:16:32:16 - 00:16:34:14 Marvel, which are just coming out now. 00:16:34:14 - 00:16:36:14 So I can't see. Far in advance. 00:16:36:14 - 00:16:39:15 Yeah, there is also going to be a movie 00:16:39:15 - 00:16:42:08 that's been teased called The Mutants. 00:16:43:04 - 00:16:45:03 That will be your first X-Men movie. 00:16:45:03 - 00:16:46:18 I bet they hints of it. 00:16:46:18 - 00:16:47:02 Yeah, they. 00:16:47:02 - 00:16:50:12 Have a sense of it that it will be called the Mutants rather than X-Men 00:16:50:20 - 00:16:53:16 to try and get away from the Fox series. 00:16:53:24 - 00:16:54:04 Right. 00:16:54:04 - 00:16:56:22 Well, and we know that while we know that 00:16:57:25 - 00:17:00:08 Ms.. Marvel has a mutation and she is. 00:17:00:12 - 00:17:01:28 Yeah, she's right. 00:17:02:11 - 00:17:04:06 Wanda was originally a mutant. 00:17:04:06 - 00:17:06:04 So this is. 00:17:06:04 - 00:17:07:19 There are ways to pull this. 00:17:07:19 - 00:17:09:04 Off, but hear me. 00:17:09:07 - 00:17:10:24 Yeah, yeah, we got you. 00:17:10:24 - 00:17:12:16 We can hear you, Pete. 00:17:12:19 - 00:17:14:22 So, okay, 00:17:14:22 - 00:17:18:25 this week we watched Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. 00:17:18:25 - 00:17:21:29 I had not seen it previous to watching it this week. 00:17:22:28 - 00:17:26:22 Sam, I know you had said that you watched it on the. 00:17:26:23 - 00:17:28:10 I just watched. Yeah. 00:17:28:10 - 00:17:30:15 I watched it actually a couple of weeks ago. 00:17:30:15 - 00:17:32:29 I watched it over 4th of July weekend 00:17:33:27 - 00:17:37:01 on the way to Disneyland, actually. 00:17:37:01 - 00:17:37:16 Okay. 00:17:38:05 - 00:17:40:06 Yeah. So I hadn't seen it before. 00:17:40:06 - 00:17:41:08 I didn't see it in the theater. 00:17:41:08 - 00:17:42:24 I waited till it came out on Disney. 00:17:42:24 - 00:17:47:15 Plus, I think Pete saw it in the theater and then probably watched it again. 00:17:47:15 - 00:17:51:05 He's he's one of those people who does see a lot of stuff in the theater. 00:17:51:05 - 00:17:54:01 In fact, I think he's already seen love and thunder. 00:17:54:01 - 00:17:56:03 I have not yet seen love and thunder. 00:17:56:03 - 00:18:01:14 I'm waiting again until that comes out on Disney plus, too, to see it. 00:18:01:16 - 00:18:02:04 Okay. 00:18:02:13 - 00:18:04:28 So, Pete, you can 00:18:04:28 - 00:18:10:07 you kind of give us a semi brief what happened? 00:18:10:14 - 00:18:14:01 And I said semi brief what happened 00:18:14:05 - 00:18:16:23 in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of madness. 00:18:16:23 - 00:18:20:24 So guys, if you have not watched and seen this yet, 00:18:21:08 - 00:18:25:26 please pause the podcast, pause the video, go watch it, 00:18:26:01 - 00:18:29:16 and then come back or just listen to Pete and save yourself 2 hours. 00:18:29:22 - 00:18:30:08 Yeah, 00:18:31:11 - 00:18:31:25 yeah. 00:18:31:25 - 00:18:33:28 There's going to definitely be spoilers in here 00:18:34:10 - 00:18:36:10 if you don't want to know what the plot is. 00:18:36:10 - 00:18:40:00 So I would I would definitely not not 00:18:41:04 - 00:18:44:02 not listen to this if you if you really want to be spoiler free. 00:18:44:02 - 00:18:49:07 But the movie opens with this character, America Chavez 00:18:49:07 - 00:18:52:14 and Doctor Strange fighting in this like kind of 00:18:53:21 - 00:18:57:04 between universe realm against this creature. 00:18:57:04 - 00:19:01:28 And we kind of find out they're trying to save this. 00:19:01:28 - 00:19:03:08 He's trying to save this girl. 00:19:03:08 - 00:19:05:04 Protect this girl from this monster. 00:19:05:04 - 00:19:08:08 Did anyone else think the creature looked like two feet 00:19:08:11 - 00:19:12:01 to two feet from Alana when she was mad and angry? 00:19:12:22 - 00:19:15:10 No, no. 00:19:15:10 - 00:19:18:10 No, no. 00:19:18:10 - 00:19:19:25 Maybe a little bit. 00:19:19:25 - 00:19:23:06 But so at one point, Doctor. 00:19:23:17 - 00:19:24:28 So this isn't the doctor strange. 00:19:24:28 - 00:19:26:23 We know this is another doctor. 00:19:26:23 - 00:19:29:20 Strange from a different universe at this stage. 00:19:29:20 - 00:19:34:06 And he basically he's trying to to fight off this creature. 00:19:34:17 - 00:19:37:24 He almost decides to take that. 00:19:38:12 - 00:19:42:01 So this character, America, Chavez, the whole thing behind this movie is that 00:19:42:10 - 00:19:45:03 she has this ability to travel between 00:19:45:20 - 00:19:47:29 multiverses as or between universes, 00:19:48:08 - 00:19:51:01 and she cannot control this power, 00:19:51:01 - 00:19:54:07 but she has this ability and that kind of 00:19:55:19 - 00:19:57:19 drives the whole plot of this movie. 00:19:58:07 - 00:20:01:09 And at this early moment, he threatens to kind of like 00:20:01:09 - 00:20:05:12 take the power from her and kill her to defeat this monster. 00:20:05:15 - 00:20:07:02 But then he's killed. 00:20:07:02 - 00:20:09:25 And when she gets frightened, she 00:20:10:25 - 00:20:12:14 generates this power. 00:20:12:14 - 00:20:16:00 And her and the dead doctor, strange end up 00:20:16:07 - 00:20:19:05 falling through to another universe 00:20:19:05 - 00:20:20:07 at that moment. 00:20:20:07 - 00:20:20:25 Our Dr. 00:20:20:25 - 00:20:25:18 Strange, which is Earth 616, wakes up and he's like, Oh, look. 00:20:25:28 - 00:20:29:24 And he had this dream that that we just saw. 00:20:30:26 - 00:20:34:02 It happens to also be Christine Palmer's 00:20:34:13 - 00:20:37:06 wedding day, who if you watched the first movie, 00:20:37:06 - 00:20:42:14 that was the woman that he was kind of in love with but didn't really 00:20:42:14 - 00:20:47:14 wasn't really in a relationship anymore with because he's such an arrogant jerk. 00:20:48:23 - 00:20:49:14 It's a good way. 00:20:49:14 - 00:20:50:13 To sum it up. 00:20:50:13 - 00:20:50:20 Yeah. 00:20:50:20 - 00:20:54:16 Yeah, that's so she's, you know, he kind of regrets that he didn't 00:20:54:16 - 00:20:57:06 end up with her, but she's like, now we wouldn't ended up together. 00:20:57:06 - 00:21:00:20 I can't stand you. 00:21:00:20 - 00:21:05:22 So he's at the wedding ceremony and this monster appears in you, which is. 00:21:05:22 - 00:21:08:04 Gutsy for him to show up at the wedding. 00:21:08:15 - 00:21:10:20 Yeah. Got to give him some credit for coming to the wedding. 00:21:10:20 - 00:21:11:15 You know, he. 00:21:11:15 - 00:21:13:18 He's trying to be the bigger man. Oh. 00:21:14:03 - 00:21:16:07 I wasn't going to say it was a good thing. 00:21:16:07 - 00:21:19:10 No, but yeah, for sure. 00:21:19:10 - 00:21:23:15 But it's it's the little bit of character development we get in this movie. 00:21:23:15 - 00:21:27:10 I mean, there's not a lot, but we get a little bit of him 00:21:27:10 - 00:21:31:25 talking to Christine and so anyways, this monster comes along. 00:21:32:12 - 00:21:35:11 America is now on Earth, six, six, one six 00:21:35:22 - 00:21:39:07 and Doctor Strange goes out to fight the monster. 00:21:39:07 - 00:21:44:04 Wong shows up who is currently the sorcerer Supreme Supreme. 00:21:44:14 - 00:21:46:10 They both fight the monster for him for a while. 00:21:46:10 - 00:21:49:05 Fight, fight, fight. Manage to defeat it. 00:21:50:20 - 00:21:52:00 Sure, go ahead. 00:21:52:00 - 00:21:53:19 Is it important how he is now? 00:21:53:19 - 00:21:57:19 Sorcerer Supreme, a set of Doctor Strange? 00:21:57:19 - 00:22:00:28 I think the only point to that was that 00:22:00:28 - 00:22:04:05 like that. 00:22:04:05 - 00:22:05:14 Is I don't know. Yeah. 00:22:05:14 - 00:22:07:14 So he doesn't Dr. 00:22:07:14 - 00:22:10:25 Strange doesn't quite play by the rules, so to speak. 00:22:10:25 - 00:22:14:02 And for that reason he, 00:22:14:02 - 00:22:18:29 I think he was, I don't know if he ever was declared the sorcerer supreme or not, 00:22:18:29 - 00:22:23:08 but it might have been when he was like gone in that game for five years. 00:22:23:08 - 00:22:25:11 Or five years long. One took over. 00:22:25:11 - 00:22:27:11 I don't know. Okay. 00:22:27:11 - 00:22:30:22 Or it may be that this six one Earth 616 isn't 00:22:30:22 - 00:22:33:23 the earth that we've been in the whole time. 00:22:33:23 - 00:22:37:05 No. 616 is supposed to be the earth, but it is. 00:22:38:03 - 00:22:40:23 I think he's just I think it's one of those things 00:22:40:23 - 00:22:43:27 where in this realm or this universe, 00:22:43:27 - 00:22:47:04 whatever he's at this stage anyway, is not the sorcerer supreme. 00:22:47:04 - 00:22:49:06 I don't think it really matters to the story. 00:22:50:28 - 00:22:53:08 So anyways, they fight for a while. 00:22:54:16 - 00:22:58:04 They America talks to them. 00:22:58:04 - 00:23:03:08 She explains the situation that she's been kind of on the run from these creatures. 00:23:04:07 - 00:23:08:09 So Wang takes her to Commerce Taj, which is the fortress 00:23:08:09 - 00:23:13:00 where all the sorcerers train in Tibet and 00:23:15:01 - 00:23:17:24 Doctor Strange decides to go to talk to Wanda 00:23:18:04 - 00:23:22:19 while actually America brings her to the to the dead body of the other doctor. 00:23:22:19 - 00:23:25:23 Strange that was there to kind of prove this whole multiverse thing. 00:23:26:12 - 00:23:28:07 But they see ruins. 00:23:28:07 - 00:23:30:11 So he says, I'm going to go talk to Wanda. 00:23:30:25 - 00:23:32:17 He goes to talk to Wanda. 00:23:32:17 - 00:23:34:25 And I got to give the movie credit on this. 00:23:34:25 - 00:23:38:19 I thought they would spend a while trying to figure out that Wanda 00:23:38:19 - 00:23:42:19 wasn't the bad guy in the movie, only did that for like 2 minutes. 00:23:42:19 - 00:23:44:20 And then we were like, Oh, she's the bad guy. 00:23:44:20 - 00:23:46:11 Yeah, it didn't take long. 00:23:46:11 - 00:23:49:20 So, so good for good on the movie for that because I, 00:23:50:03 - 00:23:53:28 I, I, everybody kind of knew it up front 00:23:53:28 - 00:23:56:18 that it was likely going to happen at some point in the movie. 00:23:57:01 - 00:24:00:10 And the fact that they were just like, Nope, we're just going to put this right 00:24:00:10 - 00:24:00:24 up front. 00:24:02:01 - 00:24:04:16 So obviously he figures 00:24:04:16 - 00:24:07:23 this out and she's like, I'm going to come get her. 00:24:07:23 - 00:24:12:00 I want to use her to go and get my kids from another universe 00:24:12:00 - 00:24:15:17 because I had all this stuff that happened in Westview. 00:24:15:17 - 00:24:17:06 I had kids, I was happy. 00:24:17:06 - 00:24:19:09 Now I'm not happy. 00:24:20:00 - 00:24:22:27 Which I thought it was a little bit of a cop out that he did not 00:24:22:27 - 00:24:27:10 talk to her at all about Westview just because Oh well, you made it right. 00:24:27:10 - 00:24:28:29 So it's okay. Right? 00:24:28:29 - 00:24:29:26 Yeah. Yeah. 00:24:29:26 - 00:24:32:22 I'm not here to talk to you about Westview. 00:24:32:22 - 00:24:33:01 Yeah. 00:24:33:01 - 00:24:35:24 And it was and one thing that gets mentioned here 00:24:35:24 - 00:24:36:17 and in a few different 00:24:36:17 - 00:24:40:26 places in this movie is that she's seeing her kids in her dreams 00:24:40:26 - 00:24:47:04 because you have your dreams connect you to the multiverse, 00:24:47:04 - 00:24:52:00 or you get to see what's going on in other universes in your dreams. 00:24:52:00 - 00:24:54:14 I never heard of this before, but okay. 00:24:54:14 - 00:24:58:00 We're going to talk more about that later. 00:24:58:00 - 00:25:01:11 So anyways, uh, strange goes back to Common Ties. 00:25:01:25 - 00:25:03:20 Wanda shows up big fight. 00:25:03:20 - 00:25:04:26 Bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah. 00:25:06:22 - 00:25:08:02 There anything really I got to talk about? 00:25:08:02 - 00:25:10:14 There is a lot of people like that. 00:25:10:15 - 00:25:12:00 Yeah, I want to kills a lot of people. 00:25:12:00 - 00:25:16:28 She ends up knocking again whenever America gets scared. 00:25:16:28 - 00:25:20:04 She like opens another dimensional portal. 00:25:20:17 - 00:25:23:25 And so again, right before Wanda gets her, she gets knocked 00:25:24:10 - 00:25:27:23 her and strange get knocked into the multiverse. 00:25:27:23 - 00:25:31:03 They pass through a whole bunch of universes and a pretty cool scene, which. 00:25:31:03 - 00:25:32:12 Was a cool shot. 00:25:32:12 - 00:25:33:07 Yeah, yeah. 00:25:33:07 - 00:25:34:20 That was that was really neat. 00:25:34:20 - 00:25:36:20 Like, there's like a universe where. 00:25:37:01 - 00:25:39:22 Wherever you don't want to get caught there, you don't want to get out there. 00:25:39:24 - 00:25:40:19 Yeah. 00:25:40:19 - 00:25:43:06 And I noticed there was also like a bone universe 00:25:43:06 - 00:25:45:25 where all the buildings were made of bones and it was. 00:25:46:07 - 00:25:47:23 There's pizza, but there's pizza. 00:25:47:23 - 00:25:50:08 Some kind of pizza. Pizza balls. 00:25:50:08 - 00:25:52:22 Yeah, it's pizza never universe. Yeah. 00:25:54:13 - 00:25:56:29 And anyway so they end up landing in a universe 00:25:57:08 - 00:26:00:24 which is actually, according to my notes is Earth 838. 00:26:01:12 - 00:26:03:24 So for for those that are keeping score 00:26:04:17 - 00:26:07:17 in the meantime Wanda is still a commentator. 00:26:07:18 - 00:26:11:13 She's captured Wang she's she's got the darkhold 00:26:11:13 - 00:26:15:14 and she's going to use it to to connect to Wanda in whatever 00:26:15:28 - 00:26:20:09 in Earth 81838 And one of the other wizards 00:26:20:09 - 00:26:24:01 like destroys the Darkhold and she kills that wizard. 00:26:24:28 - 00:26:29:02 And then she basically kidnaps one Wang and then says, You better figure, 00:26:29:05 - 00:26:32:20 you better tell me how to find the stuff from the darkhold. 00:26:32:20 - 00:26:34:00 I am going to kill everybody. 00:26:34:00 - 00:26:36:04 And so WANG just goes okay. 00:26:36:04 - 00:26:37:18 And they yeah. 00:26:37:18 - 00:26:42:01 And they go off in the meantime again 00:26:42:07 - 00:26:47:22 strange and America are in on our on earth 838 which is slightly different 00:26:47:22 - 00:26:54:19 from our earth, but it still has a, a cameo from him. 00:26:54:20 - 00:26:59:09 I mean, they never think of his name. 00:26:59:09 - 00:27:01:19 The the guy that's in all the Sam Raimi movies. 00:27:02:12 - 00:27:06:21 Is the guy the guy who's selling the pizza balls? 00:27:06:29 - 00:27:08:08 Yeah, right. Okay. 00:27:08:08 - 00:27:11:01 Yeah, I'll find it for you. Give me a sec. Yeah, that's okay. 00:27:12:17 - 00:27:16:08 But anyways, he goes to they go to the 00:27:17:10 - 00:27:19:21 sanctum sanctorum in New York 00:27:19:21 - 00:27:22:10 figuring that they're going to look up Doctor Strange. 00:27:22:25 - 00:27:24:28 Well, it turns out he's dead in this universe. 00:27:26:05 - 00:27:27:03 Bruce Campbell. 00:27:27:03 - 00:27:27:20 Bruce Campbell. 00:27:27:20 - 00:27:30:18 Yes, he shows up in pretty much every Sam Raimi movie. 00:27:31:07 - 00:27:31:21 Yeah. 00:27:31:26 - 00:27:35:07 And even he even does a little bit of Evil Dead stuff 00:27:35:07 - 00:27:38:02 where he punches himself in the face with his. 00:27:38:22 - 00:27:40:24 For, what, three weeks or something like that. 00:27:40:24 - 00:27:43:17 Yeah, but that's, that's part of the plot of, 00:27:44:26 - 00:27:47:02 of the Evil Dead, one of the Evil Dead movies. 00:27:47:02 - 00:27:49:16 His hand gets possessed and he beats himself up. 00:27:50:03 - 00:27:56:01 But so it was it was kind of a homage to a previous Sam Raimi movie. 00:27:56:01 - 00:27:59:17 But anyways, so this is where 00:28:01:07 - 00:28:04:25 Barry Mortimer Mordo is there, who was his friend 00:28:04:25 - 00:28:09:01 in the first movie, but by the end they were kind of enemies. 00:28:09:01 - 00:28:12:04 In the end of Doctor Strange, one like sets it up that he's 00:28:12:04 - 00:28:15:23 going to be the bad guy in Doctor Strange two But he 00:28:16:07 - 00:28:20:03 we don't see the Earth 616 Mordo We just see this one. 00:28:21:17 - 00:28:24:28 He acts nice towards strange, but then he drugs them 00:28:25:09 - 00:28:29:01 and basically they lock up strange and 00:28:30:23 - 00:28:31:23 America. 00:28:31:23 - 00:28:34:16 Christine Palmer is there in this universe 00:28:35:17 - 00:28:36:25 and then they let strange out. 00:28:36:25 - 00:28:40:16 They put some manacles on him so he can't do magic and they bring him to 00:28:40:17 - 00:28:41:27 visit the Illuminati. 00:28:41:27 - 00:28:46:27 And so this is the big scene that I think we'll want to talk about for a bit, 00:28:47:10 - 00:28:51:12 where he meets the Illuminati in this, in this universe. 00:28:51:12 - 00:28:53:28 And we're looking at 00:28:55:16 - 00:28:58:16 Captain Carter, who we saw in What If, but it's basically 00:28:58:16 - 00:29:01:07 Peggy Carter took the the serum. 00:29:02:09 - 00:29:07:25 We have black bolt who was the leader of the Inhumans 00:29:07:25 - 00:29:12:00 and there was a very short lived Inhumans series a few years ago. 00:29:12:14 - 00:29:15:04 And Black Bolt was on that show. 00:29:15:27 - 00:29:16:25 We have 00:29:18:16 - 00:29:20:18 Captain Marvel, but it's 00:29:20:28 - 00:29:26:03 played by Maria Rambo, who and the Captain Marvel movie was 00:29:27:15 - 00:29:29:16 okay. Carol's friend. 00:29:29:23 - 00:29:30:16 That was. 00:29:30:16 - 00:29:32:05 Yeah. So that's that was it. 00:29:32:05 - 00:29:33:27 Was it's Monica's mom. 00:29:33:27 - 00:29:35:12 Right? Monica's mom. Correct. 00:29:35:12 - 00:29:35:27 Okay. 00:29:35:27 - 00:29:38:27 Right. So that was that's the that's like 00:29:38:27 - 00:29:40:28 alternative universe Captain Marvel, apparently. 00:29:42:03 - 00:29:44:06 And then, you know, 00:29:44:06 - 00:29:47:13 the thing that probably made all the Marvel fans scream was Reed 00:29:47:13 - 00:29:53:15 Richards shows up from The Fantastic Four, and it's played by Jim from The Office. 00:29:53:15 - 00:29:54:21 John Krasinski. 00:29:54:21 - 00:29:55:16 John Krasinski. 00:29:55:16 - 00:29:57:05 Mr. Fantastic. 00:29:57:05 - 00:29:58:01 Exactly. 00:29:58:01 - 00:30:00:23 And there long been fan. 00:30:00:28 - 00:30:03:07 Fan demand. 00:30:03:10 - 00:30:05:19 Demand that he was Mr. 00:30:05:19 - 00:30:09:09 Fantastic and that his wife, Emily Blunt, is going to be 00:30:09:25 - 00:30:11:05 is going to be Sue Storm 00:30:11:05 - 00:30:12:15 just because he shows up here doesn't 00:30:12:15 - 00:30:14:26 mean he's going to be the final Fantastic Four. 00:30:14:26 - 00:30:16:20 Reed Richards But. 00:30:16:20 - 00:30:19:10 But they're coming. But they're coming. 00:30:19:10 - 00:30:20:24 And then finally, 00:30:21:25 - 00:30:23:03 Patrick Stewart rolls out 00:30:23:03 - 00:30:26:09 as Professor X and which we kind of knew from the commercials. 00:30:26:09 - 00:30:29:10 But like we get all these, you know, all these, like, 00:30:30:15 - 00:30:35:09 wow, kind of moments going on there. 00:30:35:09 - 00:30:39:08 Basically, they decide that they're going to kill now. 00:30:39:09 - 00:30:41:20 They're going to vote to see if they're going to kill. 00:30:41:20 - 00:30:45:27 Strange because they're doctor Strange had told them, 00:30:46:05 - 00:30:50:03 if I ever show up from another universe, just kill me in it. 00:30:50:13 - 00:30:53:07 And so, you know, so that's going on. 00:30:53:16 - 00:30:57:14 Meanwhile, Wanda goes to and I had to 00:30:57:16 - 00:30:59:07 I had to look this up because I didn't remember. 00:30:59:07 - 00:31:00:19 But but 00:31:01:07 - 00:31:03:01 Mount Wonder 00:31:03:01 - 00:31:06:16 saw one day Gore one day Gore mount one day Gore. 00:31:06:16 - 00:31:08:15 She goes to mount one to Gore with Wong. 00:31:08:15 - 00:31:13:17 And that's where like the darkhold was written long ago. 00:31:13:17 - 00:31:15:14 And they worshiped the Scarlet Witch there. 00:31:15:14 - 00:31:18:01 So she has all the spells there again. 00:31:18:01 - 00:31:22:01 So she performs a spell that allows her to project into her 00:31:22:20 - 00:31:25:25 her own body in another multiverse. 00:31:26:10 - 00:31:33:02 So she basically takes possession of the Wanda that's in 818 or 838. 00:31:33:02 - 00:31:35:27 Sorry that Wanda has kids. 00:31:36:00 - 00:31:41:21 She's all excited to see her kids, but then she has to go off to get America. 00:31:42:03 - 00:31:45:19 We have another big fight where she basically kills 00:31:45:19 - 00:31:51:28 all the Illuminati in pretty quick order, which shows how powerful she's based. 00:31:52:06 - 00:31:53:10 Yeah. Yeah. 00:31:53:10 - 00:31:54:05 In fact, I fact. 00:31:54:05 - 00:31:56:20 I think Captain Carter actually does the best against her. 00:31:57:03 - 00:31:59:13 Yeah. Of of all superheroes. 00:31:59:13 - 00:32:00:27 But none of them. None of them do, really. 00:32:02:03 - 00:32:03:14 I would say 00:32:04:13 - 00:32:08:15 Charles and Xavier does okay until she takes over his mind. 00:32:08:18 - 00:32:09:18 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:09:18 - 00:32:12:22 She, he, he yeah. 00:32:12:22 - 00:32:15:02 But it doesn't go well for the Illuminati, let's put it that way. 00:32:16:01 - 00:32:20:16 In the meantime, strange and Christine helps. 00:32:20:16 - 00:32:24:10 Strange and America escape again. 00:32:25:14 - 00:32:26:07 Then this. 00:32:26:07 - 00:32:28:12 Wanda, this is, this is this. 00:32:28:12 - 00:32:29:27 There's a couple of sequences in this movie 00:32:29:27 - 00:32:33:21 that are very horror esque and this sequence of Wanda 00:32:33:21 - 00:32:36:20 chasing after them through the tunnels is definitely very, 00:32:37:21 - 00:32:40:14 you know, horror movie stalker, 00:32:40:14 - 00:32:44:01 you know, unkillable villain going after people. 00:32:44:21 - 00:32:48:16 But anyways, she eventually catches up with her, she knocks, 00:32:48:27 - 00:32:51:17 she grabs America and she knocks Christine 00:32:51:19 - 00:32:54:04 and strange into yet another multiverse. 00:32:55:05 - 00:32:59:03 And she takes she's able to somehow control America 00:32:59:03 - 00:33:04:09 to bring her back to Earth 616 And she's going to perform 00:33:04:09 - 00:33:07:27 another spell to take away her power so that she can go find her children. 00:33:07:27 - 00:33:11:07 Because this is what this is all about, is to go for for Wanda 00:33:11:07 - 00:33:14:13 to find her children. 00:33:14:13 - 00:33:19:06 Meanwhile, in this new universe, strange is like, 00:33:19:07 - 00:33:21:15 well, let's go back to the sanctum again, because, you know, 00:33:21:15 - 00:33:26:00 that worked the last time so well so so this other universe is already 00:33:26:00 - 00:33:29:21 all messed up from an incursion, I believe it's called. 00:33:30:05 - 00:33:32:24 And he meets strange there. 00:33:32:24 - 00:33:35:14 And that strange is sinister. Strange. 00:33:36:10 - 00:33:38:14 It's not exactly the same. 00:33:38:14 - 00:33:42:00 Sinister strange from six one from what if. 00:33:42:13 - 00:33:45:24 But it's kind of similar to the character that shows up in in, 00:33:46:07 - 00:33:47:29 in what if, if you did see that episode. 00:33:47:29 - 00:33:50:16 But it's not, it's not important to watch the episode. 00:33:51:28 - 00:33:53:29 Basically, that that 00:33:56:04 - 00:33:57:29 that version of Doctor Strange had used 00:33:57:29 - 00:34:01:23 the Darkhold to, to get Christine back. 00:34:01:23 - 00:34:04:25 And he messed up the whole universe 00:34:04:25 - 00:34:08:06 and there was something in there about that, 00:34:08:06 - 00:34:10:16 some other book that they were trying to get to. 00:34:10:18 - 00:34:12:13 Oh, the good book makes. A good book, 00:34:12:13 - 00:34:16:21 but the good book gets destroyed anyways, so it didn't really matter. 00:34:16:21 - 00:34:18:22 So that's the book of Ashanti. 00:34:18:22 - 00:34:19:16 The book of Ashanti. 00:34:19:16 - 00:34:20:18 That's it. Yeah. 00:34:20:18 - 00:34:23:10 Yeah, yeah. 00:34:23:11 - 00:34:27:10 So now these two doctor strange fight and actually I thought 00:34:27:10 - 00:34:29:00 this was one of the cooler scenes in the movie. 00:34:29:00 - 00:34:31:07 They, they fight using kind of like music. 00:34:31:07 - 00:34:34:28 They there's like little artifacts all over the place. 00:34:34:28 - 00:34:38:24 And when Sinister Strange comes in, it's the decoded fugue. 00:34:38:24 - 00:34:41:10 And I love it's the banana. But 00:34:42:29 - 00:34:45:10 yeah, this, this was, I thought, 00:34:45:10 - 00:34:48:13 the coolest, the most original thing in the movie. 00:34:48:14 - 00:34:48:20 Yeah. 00:34:48:20 - 00:34:51:26 No, I mean, there is, there is a lot of fights in this movie, obviously 00:34:52:23 - 00:34:55:03 but this one actually felt like someone was like 00:34:55:07 - 00:34:58:03 someone had a really good idea and like, let's let's do this. 00:34:58:03 - 00:35:00:27 And it worked beautifully 00:35:00:27 - 00:35:04:07 anyways, our our strange winds again. 00:35:05:13 - 00:35:07:17 And he realizes 00:35:07:23 - 00:35:11:20 that he has to use the darkhold to try to save America, 00:35:11:20 - 00:35:15:13 but he can't get across the multiverse without her powers. 00:35:15:24 - 00:35:18:13 So he's like, Well, I need a I need a doctor. 00:35:18:13 - 00:35:19:26 Strange in that universe. 00:35:19:26 - 00:35:23:01 Oh, there's a dead one there. 00:35:23:01 - 00:35:24:13 So he decides to use the Darkhold. 00:35:24:13 - 00:35:28:04 This is just to possess the dead doctor strange, 00:35:28:12 - 00:35:30:16 which I also thought was really cool. 00:35:30:19 - 00:35:31:28 I really like this part. 00:35:31:28 - 00:35:34:04 I don't know how you guys felt about it, but 00:35:35:02 - 00:35:38:23 the problem is if you possess a dead body, then the demons come to get you. 00:35:38:23 - 00:35:43:16 So he, Christine, has to protect him from the demons in this universe. 00:35:43:16 - 00:35:47:25 And in that universe, he kind of uses the demons to form a cloak, too. 00:35:48:01 - 00:35:50:17 I don't know. It's. It's cool looking. 00:35:52:02 - 00:35:53:04 So then he goes to fight. 00:35:53:04 - 00:35:55:06 Wanda and Wang is still there. 00:35:55:06 - 00:35:58:00 He they fight again. 00:35:58:00 - 00:36:00:23 There's a lot of fighting in this movie for sure. 00:36:01:07 - 00:36:03:28 But not, I would argue not a lot of fighting grated 00:36:03:28 - 00:36:07:03 on a marvel curve. 00:36:07:03 - 00:36:09:09 Well, there's a lot of one on one fighting. 00:36:09:09 - 00:36:11:12 There's not this like. 00:36:11:12 - 00:36:15:02 Yes. Face nameless, faceless fighting, 00:36:15:20 - 00:36:18:27 armies fighting against each other like like you have in like. 00:36:19:16 - 00:36:23:09 The Avengers movies and by and fighting is 00:36:24:16 - 00:36:27:01 the term fighting is there's not like, you know, 00:36:27:11 - 00:36:31:02 big people, you know, thrashing each other all over the all over the screen. 00:36:31:02 - 00:36:33:12 It's more like magic type fights. A lot. 00:36:33:14 - 00:36:35:26 A lot of a lot of this. A lot of. 00:36:35:26 - 00:36:38:02 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:38:02 - 00:36:40:25 So I think they lose again. 00:36:41:29 - 00:36:46:09 But then strange, you know again one of the big plot points 00:36:46:09 - 00:36:50:04 that is that strange is all the other strangers are try to like 00:36:51:21 - 00:36:54:15 arrogantly do things and strange 00:36:54:15 - 00:36:59:06 finally says to America and this is what this is what I wrote down. 00:36:59:06 - 00:37:02:08 I said, you had it in you all along. 00:37:03:15 - 00:37:04:15 Oh, yeah. 00:37:04:15 - 00:37:05:15 One of those moments. 00:37:05:15 - 00:37:05:22 You know, 00:37:05:22 - 00:37:09:08 because you know how those of us from Kansas love The Wizard of Oz references. 00:37:09:17 - 00:37:10:08 Right? 00:37:10:22 - 00:37:13:14 So he basically he basically, you know, he's basically like, 00:37:13:18 - 00:37:14:29 you can do it, America. 00:37:14:29 - 00:37:16:14 You can control your powers. 00:37:16:14 - 00:37:18:19 The you have been able to control for the entire movie. 00:37:18:25 - 00:37:21:11 And hey, well, she can control her powers. 00:37:22:06 - 00:37:26:24 She throws Wanda into another universe I think in 281838. 00:37:26:24 - 00:37:27:14 Right. 00:37:28:01 - 00:37:29:16 Yeah. And then Wanda. 00:37:29:16 - 00:37:31:16 You see her with kids. Yeah, right. 00:37:31:16 - 00:37:35:20 She sees herself with the kids and then she scares the bejesus 00:37:35:20 - 00:37:39:00 out of the kids and she realizes, Oh, no, I'm a monster now. 00:37:39:07 - 00:37:42:03 And we're right back to the end of Wandavision again, 00:37:42:07 - 00:37:44:21 where Wanda realized what she's doing wrong. 00:37:45:19 - 00:37:48:26 So she collapses the mountain on herself. 00:37:49:14 - 00:37:51:06 We think she might be dead. 00:37:51:06 - 00:37:53:02 I don't know. Probably not. 00:37:53:02 - 00:37:53:18 Hard to believe. 00:37:53:18 - 00:37:54:08 That's going to kill her. 00:37:54:08 - 00:37:57:00 But anyways, you don't see Wanda anymore. 00:37:57:00 - 00:37:58:03 Everybody's away. 00:37:58:03 - 00:38:01:08 This should be back in six. One six is back. 00:38:02:11 - 00:38:03:23 America, who can 00:38:03:23 - 00:38:07:19 now controller powers is also goes to train at karma 00:38:07:19 - 00:38:11:14 Taj as a as a wizard 00:38:12:06 - 00:38:14:07 strange goes back to New York 00:38:14:07 - 00:38:18:07 and walking down the street and then the third eye appears in his head 00:38:18:08 - 00:38:22:22 and the end of the movie. 00:38:22:22 - 00:38:26:02 And then there's a T, then there's a teaser at the end with Charlize Theron 00:38:27:05 - 00:38:28:08 coming in and going, Well. 00:38:28:08 - 00:38:29:15 We'll get. To go in. 00:38:29:15 - 00:38:33:13 Marty, Marty and your kids, we've got to do something about this. 00:38:33:13 - 00:38:35:02 A different movie, sir. 00:38:35:06 - 00:38:37:07 Yeah, that's a better story short. 00:38:37:07 - 00:38:38:04 That's a better one. 00:38:38:04 - 00:38:41:26 But I know that I went I went long on that. 00:38:41:26 - 00:38:44:22 I apologize. But there's a there's a lot happen. 00:38:44:22 - 00:38:49:07 I mean, it's a lot of fighting, but there's a lot that kind of happen. 00:38:49:07 - 00:38:51:11 And you can't over too much of it. 00:38:52:16 - 00:38:56:05 So unfortunately, it took me close to 20 minutes to do that summary. 00:38:56:05 - 00:38:57:28 But we'll we'll move on. 00:38:57:28 - 00:38:59:03 We'll move on. 00:38:59:03 - 00:39:04:13 So so Sam, we mentioned this fairly early on in it, 00:39:04:14 - 00:39:07:18 but this is probably one of the closest MCU movies 00:39:07:26 - 00:39:10:01 that they've done to this culture, to A horror movie. 00:39:11:04 - 00:39:12:01 Yeah. 00:39:12:10 - 00:39:16:25 So I'm going to come out just bluntly saying 00:39:17:01 - 00:39:20:16 I did not like this movie pretty much at all. 00:39:20:28 - 00:39:25:15 And probably part of that is because it was a horror movie. 00:39:25:15 - 00:39:29:04 That's not the whole the whole reason I didn't like the movie. But 00:39:30:09 - 00:39:32:11 so Sam Raimi is the director. 00:39:32:22 - 00:39:37:01 People know him very well from the Evil Dead series. 00:39:37:09 - 00:39:42:01 I will say I did not watch those movies because I am not a horror movie person. 00:39:42:01 - 00:39:45:07 I just don't watch horror movies because they scare the bejesus out of me 00:39:45:07 - 00:39:46:29 and I don't like to have nightmares. 00:39:46:29 - 00:39:50:10 It's just not my jam now I will say I didn't have nightmares 00:39:50:10 - 00:39:51:11 following this movie. 00:39:51:11 - 00:39:54:01 It's not on that level of horror. 00:39:54:11 - 00:39:59:00 But you know, Sam Raimi and the whoever wrote the script for this 00:39:59:00 - 00:40:03:11 they they do a lot of your sort of classic horror movie stuff. 00:40:03:11 - 00:40:06:08 They do what they call in the horror genre. 00:40:06:08 - 00:40:07:16 Jump scares. 00:40:07:16 - 00:40:10:19 Jump scares what most people think of them as 00:40:10:19 - 00:40:14:10 is someone jumping out to scare you right in the moment. 00:40:14:16 - 00:40:19:02 All of a sudden, you know, the person is walking down the hall 00:40:19:02 - 00:40:22:18 and all of a sudden, you know, somebody jumps out with a big butcher knife, right? 00:40:22:18 - 00:40:25:17 That's called a jump scare. But that's not the only kind of jump scare. 00:40:25:17 - 00:40:26:00 There are other. 00:40:26:00 - 00:40:26:13 But I will. 00:40:26:13 - 00:40:30:16 Say to me, the jump scares in this were so telegraphed. 00:40:30:23 - 00:40:33:03 Yes, all of them bad. Yes, correct. None. 00:40:33:05 - 00:40:34:17 None of them were super scary 00:40:34:17 - 00:40:38:10 because they were all much more predictable than what a normal jump scare 00:40:38:10 - 00:40:39:20 is supposed to be. 00:40:39:20 - 00:40:39:28 Right. 00:40:39:28 - 00:40:44:09 Like the I think of jump scares as like in the first scene 00:40:44:18 - 00:40:48:12 of like the first Scream movie, right? 00:40:48:12 - 00:40:49:23 The original Jurassic Park. 00:40:49:23 - 00:40:52:16 When the kids are crawling through the ductwork and the 00:40:52:24 - 00:40:56:03 the velociraptor sticks its head up through. 00:40:56:04 - 00:40:56:27 Yes, that's. It. 00:40:56:27 - 00:40:58:06 Yes, that's jump scare. 00:40:58:06 - 00:41:00:02 Exactly. Exactly. So with that. 00:41:00:02 - 00:41:03:24 But that's definitely something that they use in in this movie, 00:41:04:01 - 00:41:07:15 even though it's done, perhaps not. 00:41:07:15 - 00:41:09:17 Not as well, if you really like to be scared. 00:41:09:28 - 00:41:14:06 The other thing that you see obviously is, you know, zombie strange. 00:41:14:06 - 00:41:17:25 That's obviously a classic horror movie thing. 00:41:17:25 - 00:41:21:14 We have Zombie Doctor Strange as Pete was telling the, you know, the summary 00:41:21:23 - 00:41:25:26 when we have there's a dead body of Doctor Strange and he uses the Darkhold 00:41:25:26 - 00:41:30:16 to be able to channel his consciousness into this die into this dead body. 00:41:30:16 - 00:41:31:19 And so he's a zombie. 00:41:31:19 - 00:41:34:00 And so he's there fighting in the zombie body. 00:41:34:10 - 00:41:39:04 It it's it's well done from the standpoint of, 00:41:39:04 - 00:41:43:29 I think, cinematography and acting, but it's also kind of gross. 00:41:43:29 - 00:41:46:20 And personally, I like Benedict Cumberbatch 00:41:46:20 - 00:41:49:25 as an alive person, not really as a zombie. 00:41:49:25 - 00:41:51:02 I'm just going to put that out there. 00:41:51:02 - 00:41:54:01 So it reminded me a lot of the dead 00:41:54:22 - 00:41:57:03 pirates in the original Pirates of the Caribbean. 00:41:57:03 - 00:41:58:10 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:58:10 - 00:42:00:01 I mean, some of the body movement. 00:42:00:01 - 00:42:01:17 I thought he I mean, he did. 00:42:01:17 - 00:42:03:26 Well, assuming that was him doing the body. 00:42:03:27 - 00:42:06:09 Movie, I wasn't that great. Yeah. 00:42:06:09 - 00:42:10:01 You know, he he played it well, but I personally, 00:42:10:02 - 00:42:13:12 you know, I'm not a I don't like that kind of gory stuff. 00:42:13:20 - 00:42:15:25 The other thing that we saw in this movie 00:42:16:27 - 00:42:18:25 that I didn't like, but it's 00:42:18:25 - 00:42:23:06 kind of makes sense is, you know, Wanda killing everyone, of course. 00:42:23:13 - 00:42:25:25 And particularly when she's having the fight 00:42:25:25 - 00:42:29:02 with the element while the individual one on one fights mostly 00:42:29:02 - 00:42:32:22 with the Illuminati and she just gets like covered in blood, right? 00:42:32:22 - 00:42:36:08 So that's just kind of the, the, the killer 00:42:36:08 - 00:42:39:15 in a horror movie gets covered in their victim's blood. 00:42:39:15 - 00:42:43:00 That's just very horror genre film classic. 00:42:43:00 - 00:42:47:22 So, you know, those are kind of the things that jump out at me. 00:42:48:14 - 00:42:51:00 Yeah, I'm at boohoo, right? 00:42:51:00 - 00:42:54:11 As being as making this movie more like a horror movie. 00:42:54:11 - 00:42:58:12 You know, I will say it does not go to the level of a horror movie. 00:42:58:12 - 00:43:00:29 And like I said, it's not going to give you nightmares. 00:43:00:29 - 00:43:02:23 It's not in my opinion. 00:43:02:23 - 00:43:06:13 It's not appropriate for children because of the things 00:43:06:13 - 00:43:10:16 that make it somewhat like a horror movie. 00:43:10:16 - 00:43:15:25 But it's not the kind of film that's likely to give an adult, 00:43:16:03 - 00:43:19:11 whereas, you know, an adult nightmares, whereas like for me, 00:43:19:17 - 00:43:22:21 even as an adult watching something like Poltergeist 00:43:22:21 - 00:43:26:23 or The Shining that give me nightmares so I don't watch that stuff. 00:43:26:27 - 00:43:31:09 And now I will say that you two had told me that, you know, lots of jump scares. 00:43:31:09 - 00:43:32:05 It's you know, this 00:43:33:04 - 00:43:34:07 to me, it wasn't that bad. 00:43:34:07 - 00:43:37:16 I think a PG 13 rating on this is probably right on 00:43:37:16 - 00:43:40:28 because to me, a most teenagers would be able to handle this. 00:43:41:13 - 00:43:44:03 Yeah. I mean it's not super duper gory. 00:43:44:03 - 00:43:45:14 I don't see I don't think it needs a rating. 00:43:45:14 - 00:43:47:14 I don't think it would need a rated R rating. 00:43:47:14 - 00:43:49:02 No, I, I agree. 00:43:49:02 - 00:43:52:00 I think it's sometimes PG 13. 00:43:52:00 - 00:43:54:11 You watch and you're like, oh, my ten year old could watch this. 00:43:54:17 - 00:43:57:15 This is probably like truly like. 13. 00:43:57:17 - 00:43:58:23 13. Yeah. 00:43:58:23 - 00:44:00:19 You know, but yeah, I would I would agree. 00:44:00:19 - 00:44:06:08 I think if I had I think at that age I would have at age of 13 00:44:06:08 - 00:44:10:04 I would have enjoyed this probably more than I did at 52. 00:44:11:05 - 00:44:13:17 Okay. 00:44:13:17 - 00:44:17:21 Well, another group that we mentioned was the Illuminati. 00:44:18:01 - 00:44:18:17 Yeah. 00:44:18:29 - 00:44:21:24 I'm going to give you guys a little bit of a background in the comics. 00:44:21:24 - 00:44:26:00 They were originally actually formed, as everything seems to be by Iron Man 00:44:26:23 - 00:44:29:13 and included Doctor Strange. 00:44:31:04 - 00:44:34:05 I can see them coming back, especially because 00:44:34:26 - 00:44:38:26 they play a part in trying to stop the Skrull invasion, 00:44:39:28 - 00:44:43:27 including Skrull a Skrull Elektra 00:44:44:25 - 00:44:47:16 who may be coming to the MCU. 00:44:48:01 - 00:44:53:06 And apparently there's an evil super soldier, black bolt. 00:44:53:14 - 00:44:55:21 The guy with the hypersonic voice. 00:44:56:25 - 00:44:59:07 Is. Ends up being a bad guy 00:44:59:07 - 00:45:02:08 in the comics because he's because he's a super soldier. 00:45:02:08 - 00:45:06:02 Skrull essentially, yes. 00:45:06:02 - 00:45:10:23 They died in that particular universe, you know, Earth 902, one, two or whatever 00:45:10:23 - 00:45:11:23 it was. Right. 00:45:11:23 - 00:45:14:20 But I. Think I would. 00:45:14:20 - 00:45:16:22 Have liked that of that movie better. 00:45:16:22 - 00:45:17:23 Oh, no, I. 00:45:17:23 - 00:45:18:16 92 one. 00:45:18:16 - 00:45:23:19 Oh. This was also the first introduction of Charles 00:45:23:19 - 00:45:27:24 Xavier into the MCU, officially bringing in the X-Men. 00:45:29:08 - 00:45:31:12 Yeah, I just didn't like how he died. 00:45:31:25 - 00:45:33:22 Well, yeah. 00:45:33:25 - 00:45:35:26 And like any of them died. Yeah. 00:45:36:00 - 00:45:38:25 Now, as we've seen in this Marvel series, we know 00:45:39:07 - 00:45:42:09 the mutants are coming. 00:45:42:09 - 00:45:46:07 If they bring their adolescent reptile fighting cousins, 00:45:47:04 - 00:45:50:14 that's yet to be seen because they technically had those. 00:45:50:14 - 00:45:53:24 Their cousins technically have appeared in the MCU comics. 00:45:54:10 - 00:45:59:09 So what, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, for those of you who didn't get the. 00:45:59:09 - 00:46:00:03 Reference, got. 00:46:00:03 - 00:46:06:00 It so that's you know, but the mutants are coming 00:46:06:00 - 00:46:10:01 and it was kind of let off by Charles Xavier and the Illuminati, huh? 00:46:10:13 - 00:46:10:21 Yeah. 00:46:10:21 - 00:46:11:06 And I. 00:46:11:06 - 00:46:15:11 Think I think Nickelodeon owns Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles now 00:46:15:11 - 00:46:16:22 or maybe has licensed. 00:46:16:22 - 00:46:22:19 It, but I think they have appeared in both DC and Marvel Comics. 00:46:22:19 - 00:46:25:17 So it's so they're about one they're one of the few ones 00:46:25:17 - 00:46:27:29 that have actually because they're not owned by either one. 00:46:28:09 - 00:46:30:13 Right? So so they could crossover. 00:46:30:20 - 00:46:32:26 They could I don't think they will. But they could do 00:46:34:02 - 00:46:37:01 so. But I mean, this was definitely like 00:46:37:07 - 00:46:42:24 when you talk about fan service, this the scene in this movie was total. 00:46:42:24 - 00:46:43:12 Fan. Service. 00:46:43:12 - 00:46:47:08 As much fan service as Marvel could pack into a single scene. 00:46:47:14 - 00:46:50:20 Oh, yeah. Just again, the old guy. Right. 00:46:50:20 - 00:46:51:25 And then they and then they just kill them. 00:46:51:25 - 00:46:52:08 All right. 00:46:52:08 - 00:46:57:22 So it's so it's like literally just just about like, hey, who can you know, 00:46:57:22 - 00:47:01:06 who can we put in the scene so that so the fans will go, holy cow. 00:47:01:06 - 00:47:02:25 It's so and so, you know, and they. 00:47:02:25 - 00:47:04:29 Don't have to put them in any of the other movies. 00:47:04:29 - 00:47:07:02 That's the other thing that they get out of this, right? 00:47:07:03 - 00:47:08:20 Because they can. Right. 00:47:08:20 - 00:47:09:10 They can. 00:47:09:10 - 00:47:13:28 Well, they can bring them back because we know in the multiverse is infinite. 00:47:13:28 - 00:47:14:07 Right. 00:47:14:07 - 00:47:19:22 So we know like there's other iterations where the same person is Captain America, 00:47:19:28 - 00:47:23:13 but then there's iterations where it's a different person as Captain America. 00:47:23:13 - 00:47:26:06 So they they could do the same thing with this 00:47:26:19 - 00:47:31:14 this earth 81838, whatever, you know, 616 00:47:31:14 - 00:47:35:12 could have John Krasinski in it, but he might not be Mister Fantastic. 00:47:35:12 - 00:47:36:21 He might be somebody else. 00:47:36:21 - 00:47:39:07 To write the. 00:47:39:07 - 00:47:43:08 So let me ask you guys, was there I mean, I know Derek isn't a huge Marvel fan. 00:47:43:08 - 00:47:45:23 Was there a character in here that you were like, 00:47:46:04 - 00:47:48:22 Oh, that's cool to see that character. 00:47:48:22 - 00:47:52:05 Patrick Stewart This character has agreed to that. 00:47:52:06 - 00:47:54:07 Charles Xavier Yeah, same. 00:47:54:07 - 00:47:58:05 I love him and I love Charles Xavier. 00:47:58:05 - 00:47:59:22 And so I was happy to see him. 00:47:59:22 - 00:48:02:26 I actually would have liked to see perhaps 00:48:02:26 - 00:48:05:27 the young Patrick Stewart actor, 00:48:06:10 - 00:48:09:07 the one who played in the newer movies, who plays Dr. 00:48:09:07 - 00:48:11:01 Xavier, but maybe in a different role. 00:48:11:01 - 00:48:14:02 That would have been kind of a cool crossover as well. 00:48:14:02 - 00:48:17:18 So because as sad as it is, Patrick Stewart's not going to live forever. 00:48:18:00 - 00:48:19:28 Yeah, and I actually really like the other actor. 00:48:19:28 - 00:48:21:00 I mean, I love Patrick Stewart, 00:48:21:00 - 00:48:24:28 but I actually really like the other actor as a young Charles Xavier as well. 00:48:24:28 - 00:48:28:01 So awesome. Okay. 00:48:28:02 - 00:48:30:14 I was glad to see Captain Carter in live action 00:48:30:14 - 00:48:33:06 because that's probably the most that's probably the most we'll ever get. 00:48:34:07 - 00:48:35:20 I think like. 00:48:35:20 - 00:48:36:23 Of Hayley Atwell. 00:48:36:23 - 00:48:38:25 You think you think we might see her at some point in the future? 00:48:39:04 - 00:48:41:13 I think we see her at some point of the future. I really do. 00:48:41:21 - 00:48:43:10 I think this year I think she's here with the. 00:48:43:10 - 00:48:46:02 Skrulls hmm. 00:48:46:02 - 00:48:49:17 So now you mentioned how 00:48:50:27 - 00:48:55:16 dreams played a part of this, how dreams were a vision 00:48:55:16 - 00:48:59:03 into the other multiverses. 00:49:00:03 - 00:49:02:27 Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about this too much, but 00:49:03:09 - 00:49:07:05 it's it was an interesting concept at first to me. 00:49:07:05 - 00:49:10:07 At first was like, oh yeah, well, that makes sense that you're 00:49:10:16 - 00:49:11:12 when you're asleep, 00:49:11:12 - 00:49:15:07 you're connecting to the other multiverses and you're seeing what's going on there. 00:49:15:07 - 00:49:17:04 But then the more I thought about it, I was kind of like, 00:49:18:05 - 00:49:19:06 Well, it's kind of 00:49:19:08 - 00:49:21:23 like, that's not really what dreams are like. 00:49:21:23 - 00:49:24:24 Dream dreams are like your subconscious working things out. 00:49:24:24 - 00:49:30:08 It's like, I would rather that be what really is than, Oh yeah, I'm having it. 00:49:30:09 - 00:49:33:24 I'm having a dream where I'm like, you know, in my house 00:49:33:26 - 00:49:35:26 running through my high school, in my underwear. 00:49:35:26 - 00:49:39:02 That's really happening to me somewhere, some or some other universe. 00:49:39:19 - 00:49:43:13 Or you're a lizard, and that's really happening in some other universe. 00:49:43:24 - 00:49:46:09 But Loki showed us that good. I know. That's what I mean. 00:49:46:09 - 00:49:47:22 That's what I'm referring to. 00:49:47:22 - 00:49:51:14 Or my teeth are falling out and my teeth fell out in another universe. 00:49:51:20 - 00:49:52:11 Yeah. Yeah. 00:49:52:11 - 00:49:56:14 So it's I mean, it was, I guess it was useful 00:49:57:02 - 00:50:00:06 to give Wanda motivation more than anything else. 00:50:00:22 - 00:50:01:23 Yeah. 00:50:02:03 - 00:50:03:28 And I will say I. 00:50:03:28 - 00:50:08:01 Want to give strange a glimpse into 00:50:08:01 - 00:50:10:28 how he could be right versus how he needed to be. 00:50:11:05 - 00:50:12:04 Yeah. Yeah. 00:50:12:04 - 00:50:14:21 And I did say I did talk to Mike in about this 00:50:14:21 - 00:50:18:29 and there is little to no basis for this anywhere in the comics. 00:50:19:21 - 00:50:23:01 So this is this is a MCU invention, as it were. 00:50:23:22 - 00:50:24:29 Not surprising. 00:50:24:29 - 00:50:25:07 Yeah. 00:50:25:07 - 00:50:29:07 Now, I wonder if it'll still I mean, obviously, they're going deeper and deeper 00:50:29:07 - 00:50:33:13 into the multiverse here in the next several years. 00:50:33:15 - 00:50:35:10 I wonder. Yeah. 00:50:35:10 - 00:50:39:04 So I wonder if this whole, you know, using dreams to 00:50:39:24 - 00:50:42:22 to shift between will come back to us, you know. 00:50:43:05 - 00:50:44:05 Oh, probably, yeah. 00:50:45:14 - 00:50:47:14 So. Oh, hey, 00:50:47:14 - 00:50:51:01 Wanda in this was definitely the bad guy. 00:50:51:29 - 00:50:54:27 Now, Sam, I'm going to ask you, 00:50:55:25 - 00:50:59:12 were any of Wanda's actions justified? 00:51:00:27 - 00:51:02:20 No. You don't murder 00:51:02:20 - 00:51:05:01 people to kidnap else's children. 00:51:06:12 - 00:51:08:11 No, that's the answer. 00:51:08:11 - 00:51:10:27 You don't murder all the people at commerce ties. 00:51:11:05 - 00:51:13:10 You don't try to kill America. 00:51:13:10 - 00:51:14:28 Chavez, to steal her power. 00:51:14:28 - 00:51:18:21 I mean, it's you don't murder the Illuminati. 00:51:18:21 - 00:51:22:27 I mean, it was honestly, this whole thing was a mess, a big old mess to me. 00:51:22:27 - 00:51:25:28 I mean, listen, if it was like to save your child, like 00:51:26:00 - 00:51:30:02 from being killed in that, you know, in a particular moment, yes. 00:51:30:02 - 00:51:34:16 You do anything as a mother to like, you know, to protect your child. 00:51:34:24 - 00:51:39:15 But what she was trying to do was kidnaped somebody else's children. 00:51:39:15 - 00:51:42:20 Some other version of Wanda's children, her true 00:51:42:29 - 00:51:46:29 version of her children, they were created out of her mind. 00:51:46:29 - 00:51:49:02 They never really existed, I guess. 00:51:49:02 - 00:51:50:17 At least that's what it sounds. 00:51:50:17 - 00:51:52:14 That's what we kind of learn from Wandavision. 00:51:52:14 - 00:51:54:00 Right. So. 00:51:54:00 - 00:51:57:03 So her children don't exist, right? 00:51:57:20 - 00:52:02:23 Somebody another Wanda's children exists in another universe. 00:52:02:23 - 00:52:04:24 So why would you. 00:52:04:24 - 00:52:07:15 I understand, like wanting to be with those children. 00:52:07:15 - 00:52:09:06 Okay, but then, like, 00:52:09:06 - 00:52:13:05 see if that other Wanda will let you have a relationship with those children. 00:52:13:05 - 00:52:14:17 Don't try and, like, kill people 00:52:14:17 - 00:52:18:02 in order to kidnap those children and pretend that they're your own. 00:52:18:11 - 00:52:21:06 I just thought, yeah, I really didn't like this movie. 00:52:21:06 - 00:52:23:23 I really didn't like how they made Wanda into 00:52:24:24 - 00:52:28:08 really this really bad, horrible character. 00:52:28:08 - 00:52:31:27 I don't I feel like the only redeeming thing that happened with her 00:52:32:23 - 00:52:35:10 at the end of the movie is that, you know, she she realized 00:52:35:10 - 00:52:39:01 she's terrifying her, you know, what she thinks of as her children. 00:52:39:09 - 00:52:42:29 And so that's what stops her from, you know, actually 00:52:42:29 - 00:52:44:23 following through on her plan. 00:52:44:23 - 00:52:48:22 But to me, it was just kind of crazy that she would get herself. 00:52:48:22 - 00:52:51:15 I know she wasn't good in Wandavision. 00:52:51:15 - 00:52:53:08 She was controlling everything. 00:52:53:08 - 00:52:57:11 And but I really did not I'll be honest, I did not expect her 00:52:57:11 - 00:53:01:02 to be this bad of a bad. 00:53:01:02 - 00:53:04:11 I thought she was, you know, kind of a you know what 00:53:05:23 - 00:53:10:00 I thought the Wanda we saw in Wandavision was hurt 00:53:10:00 - 00:53:16:07 and did things that she wouldn't normally do, but she wasn't like evil. 00:53:16:14 - 00:53:21:09 This Wanda was evil and bad and not justified whatsoever. 00:53:21:17 - 00:53:22:14 I don't know. 00:53:22:14 - 00:53:24:29 Pete, did you have some thoughts on it? 00:53:24:29 - 00:53:27:14 So I did because this was one of the main problems 00:53:27:14 - 00:53:31:00 I had with this movie was that, you know, 00:53:31:08 - 00:53:34:05 Wandavision set up her motivation for this movie, right? 00:53:34:05 - 00:53:36:08 To get her to get her kids. 00:53:36:08 - 00:53:39:11 But also the whole thing of Wandavision 00:53:39:11 - 00:53:42:00 was the process she went through of grieving. 00:53:42:00 - 00:53:47:14 And that's part of why that show worked so well in that it was giving her 00:53:48:03 - 00:53:50:27 getting her through that process and everything like that. 00:53:50:27 - 00:53:54:26 And at the end of it, she comes out of it going, Oh, man, I've, 00:53:55:09 - 00:53:58:23 you know, I've kidnaped all these people and I'm controlling their minds 00:53:58:23 - 00:54:00:14 and they're all miserable and everything like that. 00:54:00:14 - 00:54:02:14 This is wrong right 00:54:04:09 - 00:54:05:12 now. We go 00:54:05:12 - 00:54:07:24 now we're right back at the beginning again of 00:54:08:01 - 00:54:12:27 and what I will say, you know, well, what I will say from Marvel's standpoint, 00:54:12:27 - 00:54:16:11 they would argue that she got a hold of the darkhold 00:54:16:11 - 00:54:20:12 and the Darkhold has, you know, 00:54:20:16 - 00:54:23:29 if you use the darkhold, it does bad things to you and it. 00:54:24:08 - 00:54:26:02 Like gives you a third eye. 00:54:26:02 - 00:54:29:08 Well yeah, but, but it can if you use it enough it'll, 00:54:29:15 - 00:54:31:22 it takes, it brings that evil out, 00:54:32:29 - 00:54:35:07 but it still doesn't work for me because it just, 00:54:35:07 - 00:54:38:03 it just kind of gave her character the same arc 00:54:38:23 - 00:54:41:15 that we had just seen, but through her back to the beginning. 00:54:41:26 - 00:54:43:20 What do you think, Derek? 00:54:44:10 - 00:54:46:04 It seems to me I want to go back and touch on something 00:54:46:04 - 00:54:49:08 Sam said about how if your kids are in danger, 00:54:49:18 - 00:54:54:11 is there anything you wouldn't do to them at the end, the end, end, end. 00:54:54:11 - 00:54:57:04 Credits Scene of Wandavision. 00:54:57:12 - 00:54:59:18 You hear them saying, Mom, help. 00:55:00:15 - 00:55:05:18 I think that if they had gone to a universe where her kids were in trouble. 00:55:06:01 - 00:55:06:12 Mm hmm. 00:55:07:19 - 00:55:09:10 To me, that's something completely different. 00:55:09:10 - 00:55:11:17 And that could have helped justify her and her act. 00:55:11:20 - 00:55:13:24 Totally, totally agree with you, Derek. 00:55:13:24 - 00:55:18:08 I actually thought that that was going to be the premise of this movie. 00:55:18:14 - 00:55:20:08 Based on the end of Wandavision. 00:55:20:08 - 00:55:22:06 I thought the end end of Wandavision was 00:55:22:06 - 00:55:25:27 she was going to have to save her kids from some big danger 00:55:26:05 - 00:55:30:12 and that she might do some bad things in order to to do that right. 00:55:30:22 - 00:55:33:27 I did not expect what this ended up being, 00:55:33:27 - 00:55:36:24 which was, in my opinion, an attempted kidnaping. 00:55:39:02 - 00:55:40:28 And multiple murders. 00:55:40:28 - 00:55:42:02 Yeah, well, you asked. 00:55:42:02 - 00:55:43:01 I mean, setting. 00:55:43:01 - 00:55:46:26 Yes, I meant the motivation being right in terms of kidnaping. 00:55:46:26 - 00:55:47:22 But. Well, yeah. 00:55:47:22 - 00:55:50:14 And the other thing is like, 00:55:50:14 - 00:55:53:22 okay, there's like I don't know if there's an infinite number of multiverses, 00:55:53:22 - 00:55:56:19 but there's a lot of them is infinite, isn't there. 00:55:56:19 - 00:55:57:05 Well right. 00:55:57:05 - 00:56:00:12 Isn't there any where like wanted to know how. 00:56:01:01 - 00:56:03:11 Right. And the kids are orphans. 00:56:03:11 - 00:56:06:22 Yeah. Exactly. Go to that. Universe. Right. 00:56:06:22 - 00:56:10:08 And you know, or maybe she could have gone to America and said, 00:56:10:08 - 00:56:13:16 Can you help me and let's get your powers under control. 00:56:13:16 - 00:56:17:08 And, you know, so it's yeah, I mean, obviously 00:56:18:15 - 00:56:21:14 the motivation in a movie is to make the movie happen. 00:56:21:14 - 00:56:21:26 Right. 00:56:21:26 - 00:56:24:27 But as I said, I, I struggled with 00:56:25:24 - 00:56:28:24 we've been following Wanda for so long and to 00:56:28:24 - 00:56:33:29 to have her end story be to go like completely evil. 00:56:33:29 - 00:56:36:20 I'm not I don't know. Is it? 00:56:36:20 - 00:56:37:28 Go ahead, Derek. Okay. 00:56:37:28 - 00:56:41:29 And that actually kind of helps bring up our next point of what's next 00:56:41:29 - 00:56:43:01 for these characters. 00:56:43:01 - 00:56:48:09 What are we are we you know, and I'll start with Wanda, because is Wanda gone? 00:56:48:20 - 00:56:50:03 No, I don't think she's gone. 00:56:50:03 - 00:56:52:16 I honestly don't think she's gone. 00:56:53:01 - 00:56:54:14 She destroyed the Darkhold. 00:56:54:14 - 00:56:56:00 She destroys the temple. 00:56:56:00 - 00:56:57:25 It doesn't say she's dead. 00:56:57:25 - 00:57:00:15 And Marvel loves to bring people back from the dead. 00:57:01:08 - 00:57:03:08 Um, another point. 00:57:03:08 - 00:57:07:11 You know, the Wanda in eight, six, seven, five, three or nine or whatever 00:57:07:11 - 00:57:08:14 universe it was, 00:57:10:04 - 00:57:12:04 has powers. 00:57:12:04 - 00:57:15:28 She has powers because you can see her on the stage, on the stairs. 00:57:16:12 - 00:57:19:12 She forms the red balls with her hands. Yep. 00:57:19:19 - 00:57:23:16 So that Wanda is also Wanda the Scarlet Witch. 00:57:24:22 - 00:57:27:02 So is it. 00:57:27:13 - 00:57:30:10 I think, you know, we can see her come back there. 00:57:30:10 - 00:57:31:04 We could see her. 00:57:31:04 - 00:57:33:25 I think we may see her in the upcoming Agatha series, 00:57:34:10 - 00:57:38:06 because we know how Marvel loves to stick to orderly timelines. 00:57:38:14 - 00:57:40:19 Mm hmm. 00:57:40:19 - 00:57:44:04 I don't think we've seen the last of Wanda 00:57:44:22 - 00:57:46:12 Strange 00:57:46:12 - 00:57:49:05 there at the end with Clea, who is the Charlize Theron 00:57:49:21 - 00:57:55:05 Theron character who is a sorceress from the Dark Dimension. 00:57:55:05 - 00:57:56:22 She actually gets in the comics. 00:57:56:22 - 00:57:59:11 She gets romantically involved with Doctor Strange. 00:58:00:26 - 00:58:03:09 And I also think we probably see him back with America. 00:58:03:09 - 00:58:05:08 Chavez at some point. 00:58:05:08 - 00:58:05:21 Yeah. 00:58:06:00 - 00:58:08:17 I definitely see America 00:58:09:05 - 00:58:14:22 coming in to the the whole if we're having this whole multiverse war, 00:58:14:22 - 00:58:19:04 I got to imagine she's going to end up being an important character to that. 00:58:19:04 - 00:58:20:17 One of the hero stories. 00:58:20:17 - 00:58:23:07 Yeah, I think one of the heroes, correct? Yeah. I can see her there. 00:58:23:07 - 00:58:26:00 She does become one of the key parts of the young Avengers 00:58:27:00 - 00:58:28:05 who are coming. 00:58:28:05 - 00:58:29:08 I don't think they've been announced. 00:58:29:08 - 00:58:31:14 Nothing's been formally announced on that yet. 00:58:31:14 - 00:58:36:00 But we've seen that coming in over and over in the comics. 00:58:36:11 - 00:58:39:25 She does interact with She-Hulk. 00:58:39:25 - 00:58:44:08 She-Hulk helps her out in a case or two, and 00:58:45:15 - 00:58:48:16 I think she could be in with the Marvels because she's in 00:58:48:16 - 00:58:51:20 with the ultimate who they're kind of making the marvels out to be. 00:58:52:01 - 00:58:55:08 I wonder if as far as because Young Avengers is 00:58:55:14 - 00:58:58:10 I would agree with you there's you know, we've we've got. 00:58:59:14 - 00:59:00:19 Because we want to. 00:59:00:19 - 00:59:01:28 I want to call her Cate Blanchett. 00:59:01:28 - 00:59:03:29 But that's not her name. But Kate Bishop. 00:59:04:09 - 00:59:04:26 Kate Bishop. 00:59:04:26 - 00:59:08:00 We've got the young we've got the original 00:59:09:04 - 00:59:12:15 member of the original super soldiers, grandson. 00:59:12:15 - 00:59:15:12 Right. You. So he becomes one of them. 00:59:15:29 - 00:59:16:15 Yep, yep. 00:59:18:02 - 00:59:19:27 And I'll tie into this. 00:59:19:27 - 00:59:23:05 Both of Wanda's kids are young Avengers. Yep. 00:59:24:11 - 00:59:24:19 Yeah. 00:59:24:19 - 00:59:26:28 I don't know that they're going to pull them in, I think. 00:59:26:29 - 00:59:31:11 I think with how they use them in this movie, I just don't see them 00:59:32:09 - 00:59:35:07 showing up in in 616. 00:59:35:07 - 00:59:37:06 So I see them coming in and state. 00:59:37:06 - 00:59:40:03 I think they I think they bring the young Avengers in in phase seven. 00:59:40:08 - 00:59:43:25 I think that's the next set of movies. 00:59:44:01 - 00:59:44:20 So you think so? 00:59:44:20 - 00:59:50:02 I, I was kind of wondering if we're going to see a TV series, a young Avengers TV 00:59:50:02 - 00:59:54:24 series, probably in like before the event, the next set of Avengers movies. 00:59:54:29 - 00:59:57:06 But very it's hard to say. It's hard to say. 00:59:57:26 - 01:00:00:18 But because Billy the older one 01:00:01:00 - 01:00:04:13 who the winner Wandavision was dressed like Doctor Strange right 01:00:04:22 - 01:00:09:01 becomes essentially his his final name as a Wiccan. 01:00:09:16 - 01:00:12:15 He is one of the main members of the young Avengers. 01:00:12:15 - 01:00:18:11 His brother becomes Speed Racer, another member of The Avengers, 01:00:18:16 - 01:00:22:26 so they can either come in to page six or somewhere between phase seven and phase 01:00:22:26 - 01:00:26:19 412 that are great, great, great, great, great grandkids are going to have to 01:00:26:19 - 01:00:27:22 put up with. 01:00:27:22 - 01:00:29:23 Yeah, I think they show up well. 01:00:30:08 - 01:00:33:08 At some point these movies will start to fail. 01:00:33:08 - 01:00:34:27 But they did not fail with this movie 01:00:34:27 - 01:00:39:07 because it made almost $1,000,000,000 at the box office internationally. 01:00:39:07 - 01:00:40:28 So it still 01:00:42:06 - 01:00:45:19 I don't I don't think we're going to see a slowdown anytime soon. 01:00:45:19 - 01:00:50:08 So but based on how successful it was, Pete, I'm going to jump to you. 01:00:50:28 - 01:00:52:08 Pixie dust rating out of five. 01:00:52:08 - 01:00:56:03 How many cups of pixie dust out of five are you going to give Doctor Strange? 01:00:57:06 - 01:00:57:20 All right. 01:00:57:20 - 01:01:02:09 So I have to say, I'm the only one that saw this in the theaters. 01:01:02:09 - 01:01:06:14 And honestly, at the time I saw it, I didn't. 01:01:07:03 - 01:01:10:20 I there's some very cool sequences in it, 01:01:11:10 - 01:01:14:17 but I didn't love the movie. 01:01:14:19 - 01:01:16:05 I liked it. 01:01:16:05 - 01:01:20:09 It's kind of grown on me and thinking about it since I've there's 01:01:20:09 - 01:01:21:24 there's things I like about it. 01:01:21:24 - 01:01:24:25 I still not going to rate it highly, 01:01:24:25 - 01:01:27:17 but I think in the end I'm going to give it 01:01:28:16 - 01:01:32:15 I think I'm going to give it a three. 01:01:32:15 - 01:01:35:29 And in that I did like it. It's not one. 01:01:35:29 - 01:01:40:15 I would go back and watch very often, but I probably will watch it again someday 01:01:41:14 - 01:01:43:27 and not not in a rush to see it again. 01:01:43:27 - 01:01:47:13 But again there were some really cool sequences. 01:01:47:13 - 01:01:52:04 The fight with the music was really cool. 01:01:52:04 - 01:01:54:03 The competition fight wasn't that great. 01:01:54:03 - 01:01:56:13 But when we were talking about horror elements, 01:01:56:13 - 01:02:00:14 the one thing we didn't talk about is they try to trap Wanda in the mirror verse, 01:02:00:28 - 01:02:04:08 and then she was like kind of crawling through the mirrors 01:02:04:08 - 01:02:06:08 and things like that, and that's the depth. 01:02:06:08 - 01:02:10:05 That was a cool effect when she came through the what is it, the gong thingy. 01:02:10:05 - 01:02:11:15 Yeah, yeah. That was a yeah. 01:02:11:15 - 01:02:14:06 So that was that was very the 01:02:14:23 - 01:02:19:02 was it the ring was that the, the movie where the the crawl out of the TV set. 01:02:19:08 - 01:02:21:23 Yes. You are asking the way the wrong person. 01:02:21:26 - 01:02:23:06 You know that's that movie. 01:02:23:06 - 01:02:25:14 But I haven't seen that movie because. Yeah. 01:02:25:14 - 01:02:26:28 Yeah. So, so so is 01:02:28:08 - 01:02:28:19 but yeah. 01:02:28:19 - 01:02:30:29 So I'd say, I'd say I'm going to give it a three. 01:02:31:11 - 01:02:35:03 What about you, Sam? 01:02:35:03 - 01:02:37:23 I'm going to give it a one. 01:02:38:13 - 01:02:40:08 I really. Oh, yeah. 01:02:40:08 - 01:02:43:00 I really didn't like this movie. 01:02:43:00 - 01:02:44:20 It was too long. 01:02:44:20 - 01:02:47:24 It was too much horror. 01:02:47:24 - 01:02:51:29 I hated the way that they developed Wanda's character. 01:02:52:01 - 01:02:54:11 Yeah, I really didn't like it. There were some. 01:02:54:18 - 01:02:55:04 There were some. 01:02:55:04 - 01:02:57:07 There was some cool, some in cinematography. 01:02:57:07 - 01:02:59:19 There were some good fight scenes. 01:02:59:19 - 01:03:02:17 You know, there isn't not everything about this movie is bad. 01:03:02:17 - 01:03:04:15 But I overall did not like the plot. 01:03:04:15 - 01:03:07:05 I don't want to watch it again. 01:03:07:05 - 01:03:08:26 Yeah, not a good movie. 01:03:08:26 - 01:03:12:02 I'm really glad I didn't pay to see it in the movie theater. 01:03:12:24 - 01:03:13:26 Derek 01:03:18:05 - 01:03:19:28 Guys, I'm giving it a three. 01:03:19:28 - 01:03:20:19 I liked it. 01:03:20:19 - 01:03:22:03 I'll watch it again. 01:03:22:03 - 01:03:23:20 I'll watch again. 01:03:23:20 - 01:03:26:28 I did not see that coming. Me either. 01:03:26:29 - 01:03:29:14 I mean, it was right on the level of two and a half to three. 01:03:29:14 - 01:03:33:10 But I've always said if it's if it's a three, I'd watch it again. 01:03:34:06 - 01:03:34:22 Stat. 01:03:34:22 - 01:03:36:20 I mean it goes it's a three. I didn't mind it. 01:03:36:20 - 01:03:37:25 It was probably. 01:03:37:25 - 01:03:41:22 So what made it appeal to you more than the average marvel. 01:03:41:23 - 01:03:42:04 Okay. 01:03:42:07 - 01:03:45:01 Yeah, because there was a lot of fighting in it, but. 01:03:45:02 - 01:03:49:08 It wasn't the big, huge army against army fighting. 01:03:49:18 - 01:03:50:00 Okay. 01:03:50:00 - 01:03:53:01 And the fights the fights move the plot forward. 01:03:53:26 - 01:03:56:00 And they weren't 20 minute fights. 01:03:56:00 - 01:03:58:10 They were five minute fights. There were three minute fights. 01:03:58:10 - 01:04:02:20 Yes, there were a lot of them, but they were shorter and there was 01:04:02:21 - 01:04:05:20 there was about 20 minutes in the middle that it's one of those. 01:04:05:21 - 01:04:10:09 Okay, this is getting a little long, but that was 20 minutes in the middle 01:04:10:09 - 01:04:11:08 because you guys can remember 01:04:11:08 - 01:04:13:20 this is probably the shortest of all the Marvel movies. 01:04:14:09 - 01:04:16:29 It it it runs well under 2 hours long. 01:04:17:07 - 01:04:19:07 Really. It was only 2 hours. 01:04:19:07 - 01:04:21:02 It felt like 3 hours. It was. 01:04:21:02 - 01:04:23:17 Less. Think it's less than 2 hours long. That's fine. 01:04:23:18 - 01:04:25:17 So it felt longer to me. 01:04:25:17 - 01:04:27:01 And that to me. 01:04:27:01 - 01:04:27:06 Yeah. 01:04:27:06 - 01:04:31:09 I think without the, without the credits it was like, yeah, an hour 01:04:31:09 - 01:04:32:22 and 50 or something like that. 01:04:32:22 - 01:04:36:06 Well, even with the, even with the English credits, it was 01:04:36:15 - 01:04:38:09 before you got into the all overdubbing and everything. 01:04:38:09 - 01:04:39:23 It was still under 2 hours. 01:04:39:23 - 01:04:42:03 But to me it kept moving. 01:04:42:09 - 01:04:44:13 There was character development the whole way through 01:04:44:18 - 01:04:48:14 and there was I mean, there was a definite resolution at the end 01:04:49:17 - 01:04:51:10 as definite as Marvel can get. 01:04:51:10 - 01:04:52:16 Yes, there was the. 01:04:52:16 - 01:04:56:14 Oh, Steven Strange's off join, you know, Charlize Theron somewhere, but. 01:04:56:14 - 01:04:57:23 Okay, fine. 01:04:57:23 - 01:04:59:08 But the main story wrapped up. 01:04:59:08 - 01:05:03:09 So to me, that's what made it to me it was better than Avengers 01:05:03:09 - 01:05:05:29 because it wasn't as big of huge fight scenes, 01:05:06:05 - 01:05:08:16 but not as good as Ant-Man because it wasn't as funny. 01:05:09:03 - 01:05:10:10 Okay. 01:05:10:10 - 01:05:12:19 So yeah, there were there wasn't a ton of humor in it. 01:05:12:22 - 01:05:14:24 It wasn't, there really wasn't in humor. Yeah. 01:05:15:11 - 01:05:18:22 But, and as I think, I think part was the two of you had prepped me for 01:05:18:23 - 01:05:21:29 being so horror ask and jump scares and all that 01:05:22:19 - 01:05:25:19 and that wasn't I think actually might have helped 01:05:27:00 - 01:05:28:28 me like the movie better. 01:05:28:28 - 01:05:31:27 So now past few weeks 01:05:31:27 - 01:05:35:10 we have done Marvel, Marvel, Marvel and ad nauseum Marvel. 01:05:35:25 - 01:05:39:20 Next week we are not doing Marvel. 01:05:39:20 - 01:05:41:06 We all say yes. 01:05:41:06 - 01:05:44:08 Yes, we are heading to Radiator Springs. 01:05:44:08 - 01:05:47:24 Oh, you're going to car chow. 01:05:48:02 - 01:05:49:28 Chow, cut, chow. 01:05:49:28 - 01:05:54:11 Guys, this is a movie I have probably seen a thousand times. 01:05:54:12 - 01:05:58:26 Literally a thousand times, because it was my son's favorite movie growing up. 01:05:59:03 - 01:06:02:03 I was going to ask and say, Did was it a kid favorite? 01:06:02:03 - 01:06:04:06 Because my kids love it. 01:06:04:17 - 01:06:06:04 Yeah, lightning. 01:06:06:04 - 01:06:07:01 I am speed. 01:06:07:01 - 01:06:09:13 I one winner 42 losers. 01:06:09:13 - 01:06:11:09 I eat losers for breakfast. 01:06:11:09 - 01:06:13:24 What breakfast are breakfast bucket group. 01:06:14:03 - 01:06:16:25 Okay, guys, I could literally probably quote this almost line four line. 01:06:17:00 - 01:06:20:25 My kiddo, this movie as well, his first in theater movie 01:06:20:25 - 01:06:24:00 was actually Cars three because obviously 01:06:24:00 - 01:06:27:00 he was born after he was born in 2013. 01:06:27:00 - 01:06:28:27 So after the time of the original cars. 01:06:28:27 - 01:06:31:09 But he loved this movie. 01:06:31:09 - 01:06:33:27 This was his favorite for a couple of years. 01:06:34:08 - 01:06:34:19 Yeah. 01:06:34:19 - 01:06:38:12 So we are driving back into the vault cars will be next week. 01:06:38:12 - 01:06:39:12 The week after that. 01:06:39:12 - 01:06:40:05 I'm going to preview 01:06:40:05 - 01:06:44:02 guys because it's going to be a series coming out will be light and magic. 01:06:44:02 - 01:06:46:06 Talking about the Industrial Light and Magic Series. 01:06:46:06 - 01:06:49:08 It comes out on the 27th, 01:06:49:09 - 01:06:52:28 but it is going to be a six or seven episode series, I believe. 01:06:53:13 - 01:06:55:26 So really give people two weeks to watch that. 01:06:55:26 - 01:06:57:27 So all traveling at once. Yes. 01:06:58:05 - 01:07:00:29 It's all dropping at once, but it's from what 01:07:00:29 - 01:07:03:29 I've seen, six or 745 minute to an hour long episodes. 01:07:04:09 - 01:07:05:24 So good. Forward to that one. 01:07:05:24 - 01:07:07:28 Oh, I'm so looking forward. We would have done that next week 01:07:07:28 - 01:07:09:29 if it had been shorter, to be perfectly honest. 01:07:10:21 - 01:07:11:07 Oh, come on. 01:07:11:07 - 01:07:16:14 That's no, I'm just not that big on those behind the scenes show, though. 01:07:16:29 - 01:07:19:08 So I'm really looking forward to the next two weeks. 01:07:19:08 - 01:07:21:06 I hope you guys are too. 01:07:21:06 - 01:07:25:26 And those of you who aren't, we've got I Am Groot coming out in 01:07:26:07 - 01:07:30:07 in about three weeks, which I believe Vin Diesel is back for. 01:07:30:13 - 01:07:33:01 Yes, he is. Come back and do the other voices again. 01:07:33:02 - 01:07:35:18 So he is, by the way, loved him in. 01:07:35:18 - 01:07:37:04 Cosmic Rewind. 01:07:38:19 - 01:07:39:12 Just going to say that 01:07:39:12 - 01:07:41:18 not going to give any spoilers, not going to give any spoilers. 01:07:41:19 - 01:07:44:02 Just going to say love him in Cosmic Rewind. 01:07:44:13 - 01:07:48:06 Okay, so guys with that, thank you everyone for listening and watching 01:07:48:06 - 01:07:50:10 and we will see you guys next week. 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